Court Carruthers has led some of the most important “behind-the-scenes” businesses in the economy – logistics, distribution, and the systems that keep everything moving. From Purolator to W.W. Grainger, where he served as Group President across the Americas, to stepping in as CEO of the multi‑billion‑dollar packaging distributor TricorBraun, Court has built a career on listening, building teams, and doing the unglamorous work exceptionally well.

He’s also retired twice, and learned that fulfillment takes more than a financial plan. It takes a plan for your time. In this conversation with Dustin, Court opens up about a startup failure that tested his resilience, why the CEO role can be isolating, and how leaders create support systems that actually work.

About the Show

Dustin Ogden sits down with CEOs, entrepreneurs and business leaders from essential services industries across the commercial and consumer spectrum. These leaders might not be household names, but they've achieved remarkable things. They share the whole truth on the strategy and mindset every leader should possess. From unglamorous beginnings and failures to turning points and strokes of luck, they expose the real learnings that helped them achieve greatness.

Each episode, you’ll hear advice and insider knowledge that only comes from decades of experience. They’ll share counterintuitive truths, unspoken rules, stories of mentorship that made a difference and even moments of doubt. They’re here to help guide you on your own career journey.

About the Host

Dustin Ogden is a Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry. Over his career, Dustin has worked with hundreds of CEOs and business leaders, and his deep expertise in executive search has given him unprecedented access to the stories, strategies, and hard-won wisdom of some of the most successful (yet least publicly known) leaders in America.

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Ordinary Greatness is all about the real, human stories of ordinary people who built extraordinary careers and share their guidance on how to become successful and effective business leaders.

This podcast is for the professionals navigating their careers without a mentor. It’s for the senior leaders feeling isolated at the top. And it's for anyone who's ever wondered if their struggles are normal, or if they've got what it takes to make it. Because the leaders you’ll meet have been exactly where you are. And they're ready to show you the way forward.

So join us and discover what success really looks like.

New episodes of Ordinary Greatness drop every two weeks. Subscribe now to never miss a story.

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Allie Copeland became a mother at 17. With a baby, $500, and an unreliable car, she left Philadelphia in search of something more – and built a career in wholesale distribution from the ground up. Today, she is Chief Commercial Officer at ADI Global Distribution, where she has held multiple C-suite roles, including COO and CTO, as well as serving as Vice President of Global Operations.

In this conversation with Dustin, Allie reflects on the experiences that shaped her early life and leadership style, and the lessons that only made sense years later. She shares her perspective on resilience, servant leadership, and why building a sense of identity beyond your career is critical to long-term success.

About the Show

Dustin Ogden sits down with CEOs, entrepreneurs and business leaders from essential services industries across the commercial and consumer spectrum. These leaders might not be household names, but they've achieved remarkable things. They share the whole truth on the strategy and mindset every leader should possess. From unglamorous beginnings and failures to turning points and strokes of luck, they expose the real learnings that helped them achieve greatness.

Each episode, you’ll hear advice and insider knowledge that only comes from decades of experience. They’ll share counterintuitive truths, unspoken rules, stories of mentorship that made a difference and even moments of doubt. They’re here to help guide you on your own career journey.

About the Host

Dustin Ogden is a Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry. Over his career, Dustin has worked with hundreds of CEOs and business leaders, and his deep expertise in executive search has given him unprecedented access to the stories, strategies, and hard-won wisdom of some of the most successful (yet least publicly known) leaders in America.

Get in Touch

Ordinary Greatness is all about the real, human stories of ordinary people who built extraordinary careers and share their guidance on how to become successful and effective business leaders.

This podcast is for the professionals navigating their careers without a mentor. It’s for the senior leaders feeling isolated at the top. And it's for anyone who's ever wondered if their struggles are normal, or if they've got what it takes to make it. Because the leaders you’ll meet have been exactly where you are. And they're ready to show you the way forward.

So join us and discover what success really looks like.

New episodes of Ordinary Greatness drop every two weeks. Subscribe now to never miss a story.

Follow Dustin Ogden on LinkedIn for exclusive content and to share your questions about navigating the path to success.

Chris Baby started as a mechanical engineer in small-town Canada. But a chance opportunity – and a willingness to pivot – would take his career in a completely different direction. Today, Chris helps lead the growth of SureWerx, one of North America’s major suppliers of safety equipment and protective gear. Over more than a decade as CEO, he helped transform the company from a traditional tool business into a fast-growing safety company.

In this conversation with Dustin, Chris reflects on the decisions that shaped his career, from leaving the forest products industry to moving his family from Vancouver to Chicago to build the company’s U.S. presence. He also shares what he’s learned about leadership along the way: managing emotions, reading the room, and building a culture where people want to win together.

About the Show

Dustin Ogden sits down with CEOs, entrepreneurs and business leaders from essential services industries across the commercial and consumer spectrum. These leaders might not be household names, but they've achieved remarkable things. They share the whole truth on the strategy and mindset every leader should possess. From unglamorous beginnings and failures to turning points and strokes of luck, they expose the real learnings that helped them achieve greatness.

Each episode, you’ll hear advice and insider knowledge that only comes from decades of experience. They’ll share counterintuitive truths, unspoken rules, stories of mentorship that made a difference and even moments of doubt. They’re here to help guide you on your own career journey.

About the Host

Dustin Ogden is a Senior Client Partner at Korn Ferry. Over his career, Dustin has worked with hundreds of CEOs and business leaders, and his deep expertise in executive search has given him unprecedented access to the stories, strategies, and hard-won wisdom of some of the most successful (yet least publicly known) leaders in America.

Get in Touch

Ordinary Greatness is all about the real, human stories of ordinary people who built extraordinary careers and share their guidance on how to become successful and effective business leaders.

This podcast is for the professionals navigating their careers without a mentor. It’s for the senior leaders feeling isolated at the top. And it's for anyone who's ever wondered if their struggles are normal, or if they've got what it takes to make it. Because the leaders you’ll meet have been exactly where you are. And they're ready to show you the way forward.

So join us and discover what success really looks like.

New episodes of Ordinary Greatness drop every two weeks. Subscribe now to never miss a story.

Follow Dustin Ogden on LinkedIn for exclusive content and to share your questions about navigating the path to success.