In this episode of Leaving CrazyTown, Finn and Dr. Sarah break down a deceptively simple but life-changing concept: there is nothing to defend. Through humor, real-life role-play, and honest reflection, they explore how defensiveness, ghosting, and emotional shutdown sabotage connection—and how validation, curiosity, and clarity create safety instead. If you’ve ever felt misunderstood, reactive, or stuck in communication loops, this conversation offers a grounded path out of CrazyTown and into emotional freedom.Key Takeaways

• Defensiveness blocks connection—even when your intentions are good

• Validating someone’s feelings doesn’t mean agreeing with their story

• Telling yourself a story isn’t the same as telling the truth

• Clear, direct communication prevents resentment from leaking sideways

• Healing codependency starts with emotional responsibility, not blame

Key Timestamps

• [00:01] — Introducing “There Is Nothing to Defend”

• [00:02] — What defensiveness actually sounds like in real life

• [00:04] — Ghosting, shutdowns, and passive aggression explained

• [00:05] — Sharing feelings without blame

• [00:06] — Validation vs. agreement: the crucial distinction

Notable Resources & Links

• Dr. Sarah Michaud — Author of Co Crazy

• Website: https://drsarahmichaud.com/

• Follow @leavingcrazytown on YouTube

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Leaving CrazyTown is a raw, real-talk podcast hosted by Finn and Dr. Sarah Michaud, two recovering addicts turned relatable guides on the wild ride of codependency healing. Each episode dives deep into the chaos of dysfunctional relationships, identity loss, and emotional recovery—with humor, honesty, and hope. Subscribe and buckle up—we’re leaving CrazyTown.