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No Trade Secrets

No Trade Secrets

By: Jarome McKenzie
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Everyone sees the most visible part of a founder’s journey: the outcome. But the truth is that few understand the mindset, pressure, and discipline behind it.


This podcast explores the deeper system behind business and life. The beliefs, habits, and decisions that shape growth long before the numbers appear.


Through thoughtful conversations, Jarome McKenzie sits down with founders, operators, and thinkers who have built meaningful things. Together they explore the moments that shaped them, the pressure that forged their discipline, and the mindset behind their success.


Jarome approaches each episode as both a builder and a student. He learns alongside the audience while weaving each guest’s insights into the frameworks he uses with founders and leaders.


The result is an honest exploration of business, leadership, and intentional living. A look at how great builders think, make decisions, and design lives that matter.

© 2026 No Trade Secrets
Episodes
  • Dismantling Corporate Hierarchy and The Power of Shared Experiences w/ Paul Jones (Part 1) - Ep. 9
    May 19 2026

    In a world hyper-connected by technology, we are experiencing a massive loneliness epidemic and wandering through business "connection deserts". Today, we're joined by Paul Jones, founder of Bridgio, who transitioned from guiding whitewater rafts in Jackson Hole to architecting B2B communities. Paul reveals how to capture the electric "bus ride back" energy of shared adventures and apply it to professional networking. We explore why traditional virtual happy hours fail, how shared niche interests instantly dissolve corporate hierarchy, and the power of social learning theory.

    💡 Unlocking the Playbook

    • Dissolving Hierarchy Through Niche Interests: Corporate environments are often rigid, but connecting over specific shared passions—like a favorite band—instantly strips away titles. When a CEO and an entry-level employee connect over their mutual love for the Grateful Dead, the hierarchy is remade around who holds the most experience with that shared interest, creating genuine, equal-footing relationships.
    • Capturing the "Bus Ride Back" Energy: Just as strangers on a nervous bus ride to a whitewater rafting trip become vibrant friends on the adrenaline-fueled ride home, businesses can engineer this high-energy transformation. You don't always need a physical shared experience to spark it; bringing people together to passionately discuss overlapping past experiences or mutual interests creates the exact same authentic connection.
    • Embracing Social Learning Theory: Shift away from traditional "one-to-many" expert lectures and embrace environments where everyone sits together as equals to mutually explore uncertainty. By bringing collective failures, wins, and perspectives into the open—like blindfolded people describing different parts of an elephant—groups can uncover deeper insights and build stronger bonds without needing a scripted outcome.

    🤫 Part 1's Playbook Secret (The official No Trade Secret drops in Part 2, but here is the hidden secret of Part 1!)

    The true secret to digital networking isn't trying to mimic real-world interactions with cheesy virtual happy hours. Instead, it’s about using the lack of physical logistics to quickly sort and connect people across geographies based strictly on shared experiences and passions. Build your relationships digitally first, so when you finally attend that in-person conference, you are deepening established connections rather than starting from zero.

    🗣️ Words to Build On

    "Sometimes you might have the most perfect line. And if lunch counter just decides to curl up on you and just smash down on you, like it's going to happen." – Paul Jones

    "The internet made it possible for us to find all the people to that matter to all the things, if that makes sense." – Paul Jones

    "I personally believe that if we can create a healthy culture of connection... ultimately more people are going to be happier and live happier lives that research is very very clear." – Paul Jones

    👤 About Paul

    Paul Jones is the founder of Bridgio, a connection chemist who helps companies replace cold outreach with warm, community-led go-to-market strategies. Beginning his career as a river guide in Jackson Hole, he now leverages the philosophy of shared momentum to build curated B2B communities that drive referrals, trust, and real pipeline. To date, Paul has built over 40 go-to-market communities and facilitated more than 500 intimate peer learning webinar sessions.

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • 🎧 Make sure to listen to Part 2 to hear Paul’s ultimate "No Trade Secret" on abandoning the IP moat and building transparently with customers!
    • Connect with Paul on LinkedIn
    • Visit Bridgio’s Website
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    33 mins
  • High-Performance Teams, Chasing Freedom, & The Ultimate "Why" w/ Ayinde Bakari (Part 2) - Ep. 8
    May 19 2026

    We pick right back up with Ayinde Bakari, VP and Co-Founder of First Mate Logistics, for the conclusion of our conversation. In Part 2, we graduate from the leap of faith and dive straight into the mechanics of scaling. How do you re-align a struggling team? Why is making money a terrible long-term goal? Ayinde breaks down the strategies for putting the right people in the right seats and explains why true success is measured by the freedom you create for the people you love.

    ⏮️ Catch Up on Part 1

    Did you miss the beginning? In Part 1, Ayinde broke down the origins of First Mate Logistics, why you need an optimistic mindset, and how the "deathbed perspective" cures the fear of failure.

    💡 Unlocking the Playbook

    • The Right People in the Right Seats: Having a team that works hard isn't enough if you are all rowing in different directions. Sometimes a struggling employee isn't a bad fit for the company; they just need to be moved to a different seat where their natural skills can actually thrive.
    • The Arrowhead Alignment: A team is like an arrowhead—all the force must move in one common direction to hit the target. One bad apple or selfish ego can ruin the collective culture, no matter how individually brilliant they are.
    • Chase Freedom, Not Money: Money is great fuel in the short term, but it will not sustain you during the hardest days of entrepreneurship. Shift your focus toward building a business that creates absolute freedom for yourself, your family, and your team.

    🤫 The No Trade Secret

    Get a great accountant, and life is short—take time to make memories.

    Do not listen to the internet telling you to grind yourself into the ground. You will be vastly more successful if you intentionally step away from the business every quarter to go on a trip, be present with your family, and recharge.

    🗣️ Words to Build On

    • "I'm no longer chasing money, I'm chasing freedom." – Ayinde Bakari
    • "What good is a mansion if you have no one to share it with?" – Jarome McKenzie
    • "If you have one bad apple, it will ruin the rest of the apples." – Ayinde Bakari

    👤 About Ayinde Bakari

    Ayinde Bakari is the Vice President and Co-Founder of 1st Mate Logistics, a nationally recognized transportation company specializing in complex logistics solutions across North America. He leads growth strategy, finance, partnerships, and team development as the company continues to scale within the transportation industry. Ayinde is also the founder and host of the YINWorldWide Podcast, where he explores discipline, identity, emotional intelligence, wealth, and modern masculinity through perspective-driven conversations. Blending entrepreneurship with philosophy, he is passionate about building impactful businesses, meaningful media, and a legacy rooted in growth, strength, and purpose.

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • 🎧 Missed the beginning? Go back and listen to Part 1!
    • Visit 1st Mate Logistics’ Website
    • Listen to the YINWorldwide Podcast
    • Reach out to Ayinde at ayinde@1stmatelogistics.com
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    41 mins
  • The "Deathbed" Perspective, Taking the Leap, & Auditing Your Circle w/ Ayinde Bakari (Part 1) - Ep. 7
    May 19 2026

    What does it take to start a complex logistics company in your early twenties and scale it into a national force? In Part 1 of this two-part conversation, we sit down with Ayinde Bakari, the Vice President and Co-Founder of First Mate Logistics. Ayinde shares his journey of launching a business with his college roommate during the chaos of 2020. We dive deep into the power of an unshakable mindset, why your twenties are the perfect time to take massive risks, and the profound "deathbed" perspective that can immediately cure your fear of failure.

    💡 Unlocking the Playbook

    • The Best Time to Take a Leap: If you are young and don't yet have heavy responsibilities like a mortgage or children, that is your ultimate advantage. You have the runway to take a massive risk because you have the time to make up for it if things go wrong.
    • Audit Your Circle: The energy you surround yourself with dictates your trajectory. You are the average of the five people you spend the most time with, so you must be intentional about separating from relationships that are no longer heading in your direction and seeking out peers who challenge you.
    • The "Deathbed" Perspective: When faced with a scary risk, ask yourself: Will I regret not doing this when I am on my deathbed?. Most people regret the things they didn't try much more than their failures.

    🤫 Part 1's Playbook Secret: Find the Good in the Bad (The official No Trade Secret drops in Part 2, but here is the hidden secret of Part 1!)

    The universe is going to test you. When massive challenges hit, the secret to surviving is an unwavering optimistic mindset. You can turn almost every negative into a positive if you look at it as a way to learn, grow, or build a deeper relationship with a client or partner.

    🗣️ Words to Build On

    • "If you're going to be an exceptional person for the most part, you just got to step out of the box and just go for it." – Ayinde Bakari
    • "Show me who your five best friends are and I'll show you an average of who you actually are." – Ayinde Bakari

    👤 About Ayinde Bakari

    Ayinde Bakari is the Vice President and Co-Founder of 1st Mate Logistics, a nationally recognized transportation company specializing in complex logistics solutions across North America. He leads growth strategy, finance, partnerships, and team development as the company continues to scale within the transportation industry. Ayinde is also the founder and host of the YINWorldWide Podcast, where he explores discipline, identity, emotional intelligence, wealth, and modern masculinity through perspective-driven conversations. Blending entrepreneurship with philosophy, he is passionate about building impactful businesses, meaningful media, and a legacy rooted in growth, strength, and purpose.

    🔗 Links & Resources

    • 🎧 Make sure to listen to Part 2 to hear Ayinde's ultimate "No Trade Secret" on avoiding the ultimate entrepreneurial trap!
    • Visit 1st Mate Logistics’ Website
    • Listen to the YINWorldwide Podcast
    • Reach out to Ayinde at ayinde@1stmatelogistics.com
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    39 mins
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