In this episode of More Elephant, I sit down with Anita Ghosh, Founder and CEO of Bridjr, for a deeply human conversation about leadership, listening, and what it really takes to build organizations that work for people, not just systems.

Anita’s work sits at the intersection of empathy, technology, and business transformation. However, this conversation goes further than frameworks and models - so much further that we are holding space over two episodes for the conversation.

We talk about the quiet moments that shape careers, the cost of external validation, and what happens when leaders stop trusting themselves. Deeply personal, Anita shares her path from large organizations to founding Bridjr including the moments that forced her to slow down, listen, and choose bravery without a safety net.

We also unpack why so many organizations struggle with change, how internal transformation thinking and impact often lags behind external ambition, and why human adoption is the real driver of ROI in technology. At its core, this episode is about remembering that progress starts with listening and that being human is not a liability in business. It is the advantage.

Key More Elephant Takeaways in this Episode:

• Anita explains why organizations often struggle when the inside doesn’t change as quickly as the outside, emphasizing that real business value comes from human adoption and continued use, not just implementation.
• We discuss how systems that reward performance over alignment can quietly erode a leader’s inner compass.
• Anita shares how listening opened up new choices for her life and expanded how she saw herself and her purpose.
• We talk through how leaders grow when they give themselves permission to step off the expected route and create their own story.
• and more…

In this episode of the podcast, we kick off 2026 with Brooke Dukes — author, executive coach, and founder of BMD Consulting and Success by Design Club. Her book, ‘Burn On, Not Out’, is her personal narrative that led to the creation of her business focused on empowering high-achieving leaders to conquer burnout through human design and purpose alignment.

The realization that Brooke, as a corporate high-flyer, was risking it all, including flying at eight months pregnant for the sake of large bonus led to a More Elephant epiphany and has evolved into a mission blending behavioral science, neuroscience, and ancient wisdom to foster fulfillment over frenzy.​

Success by Design Club is more than a community; it's a lifeline for leaders who feel they are on the hamster wheel. The ‘Club’ offers monthly coaching, resources, and tools such as the GRACe communication framework, to intersect personal purpose with professional wins.

In the episode, Brooke recounts her pivot from Fortune 100 burnout to network marketing to insurance sales to consulting for giants like Quicken Loans to now channeling myriad lessons into small business leaders craving conscious culture.​

We explore human design's blueprint for deconditioning trauma-driven hustle, balancing masculine-feminine energies, and how Brooke’s Culture Compass assessments guide company transformation. Brooke's path highlights resilience, intuition trust, and slowing down to ignite genius.​ She is continuing to Burn On by helping others identify the signs and prevent Burn Out.

Key More Elephant Takeaways in this Episode:

• Brooke reveals her "More Elephant moment" — preterm labor on a corporate jet exposing value misalignments from childhood trauma, fueling her exit to entrepreneurship.​
• Brooke demystifies human design as a DNA blueprint from neutrinos and ancients, revealing purpose, genius, and deconditioning for flow over grind.​
• Brooke details Success by Design Club for coaching, GRACe rapport-building, and Culture Compass to craft inner-outer success.​
• and more…

In this episode of More Elephant, we sit down with Jorge Perez — the Venezuelan-American designer and entrepreneur behind Betsy Moss, a women’s ready-to-wear brand celebrated for its effortlessly sexy yet chic resort wear. What began as a childhood game of dressing up with his sister has evolved into a thriving fashion house that blends Miami’s vibrant energy with the elegance of Venezuelan culture.

Betsy Moss is more than just a clothing line; it’s a lifestyle brand that empowers women to feel glamorous and beautiful, whether they’re relaxing or entertaining. Jorge shares the story of his hands-on apprenticeship in the fashion industry, the challenges of scaling a brand in a competitive market, and the pivotal moments that shaped Betsy Moss’s journey.

We dive deep into the entrepreneurial spirit that drives Jorge, the importance of authenticity in design, and the vision for expanding Betsy Moss into new markets and product lines. We explore the impact of global supply chain issues, the evolution of production strategies, and the role of social media in amplifying the brand’s reach.

From navigating the complexities of international manufacturing to embracing the power of organic content, Jorge’s journey is a testament to passion, resilience, and flair.

Key More Elephant Takeaways in this Episode:

• Jorge discusses how his Venezuelan heritage and upbringing in Miami influenced the aesthetic of his collections, blending resort wear, lifestyle, and vacation vibes.
• Jorge shares his path from marketing intern to hands-on apprenticeship in the fashion industry, emphasizing passion and drive as the keys to his success.
• The conversation covers the challenges of launching and scaling a fashion brand, including navigating production, quality control, and distribution networks.
• …and more