Billy & Elliott talk about the things we do outside the job that keep us sane—whether we call them hobbies, habits, or just “how I decompress.” They get into golf frustration and comparison (“golfers are liars”), archery, rucking and walking for miles, and the unexpected hobby that’s bringing real joy lately: podcasting.

Somewhere in the middle, a phrase shows up that sums it all up: tactical joy—being deliberate about finding the small moments that reset your head, build camaraderie, and remind you there’s more to life than the grind.

Takeaway: Find yours. Share it. And stop pretending you “don’t do anything.”

What do rare bourbon “ghost drops,” measured pours, and midnight shifts have in common?

Sleep.

In this episode Elliott and Billy start with a Ghost drop bourbon rush and end up in a serious conversation about one of the most overlooked topics in public safety: rest.

Is restorative rest a weakness?
Or is it long overdue?

This conversation hits on something bigger: if we’re still pretending sleep doesn’t matter in 2026, why are we surprised recruitment and retention are suffering?

No script. No posturing. Just real talk about bourbon, burnout, and the biological truth we’ve ignored for too long.

If your department is doing something innovative around sleep and midnight shifts — we want to hear about it.

Email us- meresponderwellness@gmail.com. Let’s keep the conversation going.

Elliott and Billy have an honest, lighthearted conversation about weight, health, habits, and the mental roadblocks.

What starts as a candid admission about being “on the fat boy program” turns into a deeper discussion about anxiety, ego, human behavior, and how easily we overthink the very steps that are meant to help us. Elliott shares his experience being referred to a hospital-based weight and fitness program, the anxiety he felt walking into the first class, and how close he came to talking himself out of it—despite knowing exactly what he needed to do.

Together, they explore self-sabotage, habit-building, and why the hardest part of any change is often just showing up. The conversation also touches on accountability, tracking progress, nutrition, fitness, and replacing unhealthy habits with better ones—without extremes or quick fixes.

This episode isn’t about perfection. It’s about getting out of your own way—one small step at a time.

Takeaways

• Weight loss journey
• Overcoming anxiety and self-doubt