Welcome to the first episode of the Let’s Get Real Summer Series! We have some slightly shorter episodes that you can listen to in between your Summer plans. First up, we have an episode with Leigh Sandison, the Managing Director of Real Path.

Leigh joins Ed and Lisa to discuss the difference between data and conversation, and how treating donors as more than a single data point can further your organization. The hosts also relate this to the idea of pro-social behaviour, and how connection makes people more likely to give.

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Ed and Lisa are fortunate enough to be joined by Rowena Veylan for this episode! Rowena is the Founder and Lead Instructor at The New School of Fundraising. Along with Ed and Lisa, she discusses the cuts to fundraising programs in recent years, and the new methods of education and teaching that have emerged as a result.

Elsewhere in the episode, Lisa raises the topic of burnout amongst leaders, and mentions 5 signs to watch for so you can tell if it’s serious burnout or just everyday fatigue. And Ed brings the conversation back around to AI, this time to discuss its use in hiring practices.

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This week on Let’s Get Real, Ed and Lisa are thrilled to welcome back Marla Smith, CFRE, from the Pathstone Foundation! Marla brings her perspective to a discussion about the gap between publicly and privately funded research in the philanthropic sector.

Later in the episode, the conversation about research continues as the hosts discuss data. How are we capturing data? And are these methods able to keep up with the recent shifts in how people engage with charities? This episode dives into those questions and more.

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