Join Jenn and Barbara as they explore infertility as a deeply personal form of non-death grief - one that reshapes identity, relationships, and the way people move through the world. Together, a thanatologist and a therapist unpack the heartbreak of imagined children, the loss of bodily trust, the cycle of hope and disappointment, and the isolation that comes when this grief is minimized or misunderstood. This conversation offers validation, compassion, and language for a loss that often goes unnamed - reminding listeners that their grief is real, meaningful, and worthy of care.

Invisible loss is grief no one prepares you for. In this introductory episode, we share why this podcast exists and how our own experiences with infertility, relationship loss, identity shift, and unmet expectations taught us that grief isn't only about death. We talk honestly about what it's like to carry losses that aren't acknowledged, supported, or understood - and why naming them changes everything. If you've ever felt like your pain didn't "count," this space was created for you.