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Into The Unknown with Mike and John

Into The Unknown with Mike and John

By: VonDeuber Productions LLC
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Hosts Mike and John — friends for over 35 years — explore the paranormal. East Coast, suburban upbringings influence their world view as they examine topics from the fringes of science, history, and culture. Ghosts, aliens, ancient knowledge, cryptids, lost civilizations and many other interesting and unexplained phenomena are the targets of their investigations and discussions. Are they real or do people just like telling stories? Is there a unifying theory or is it all just a way to pay the bills? Mike and John dive in — with all the others — to find out… and come to their own conclusions.VonDeuber Productions LLC Social Sciences
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  • Hell House
    Jan 30 2026

    "Can you make it to the altar? And we don't mean for nuptials."

    "Hell House" tested the courage of Catonsville area teens for a generation, but before that, it had a history. We examine it all as we enjoy another chat with Luke Meiller.


    Sound Effects:

    Harp Sound Effect

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    Websites and Resources:

    This Bizarre Abandoned College In Maryland Is So Eerie, Locals Won’t Talk About It

    St. Mary's College (Ilchester) - Wikipedia

    The legend of The Hell House College of St Mary’s | Ancient Origins

    This Hiking Trail At Patapsco Valley State Park Takes You To Some Creepy 'Haunted' Ruins

    https://youtu.be/k9yG41-pqlA?si=GZZAAPDYJhbkI81s

    The Undeparted | Haunted Ellicott City | Hell House | St Mary's College

    Maryland Ghost Stories: Hell House

    Hell House, Ellicott City, MD

    Visiting St. Mary's Hell House on the 20th Anniversary of the Fire

    Exploring Maryland: The "Hell House" Altar

    Images:

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Snallygaster
    Jan 23 2026

    All the cryptids are weird, but the Snallygaster might be the weirdest. Join us for this requested cryptid and enjoy the wide ranging and strange details of this Maryland area beastie.


    Links:

    Enoch Pratt Free Library presentation: Unveiling Maryland's Monsters: Folklore and Legends from the Free State

    Something was hunting them… The Mystery of the Snallygaster Explained, by Roanoke Tales https://youtu.be/dsyfhCc5950?si=87MLC3LwbhiWf-WI

    The Bizarre Dragon of Appalachia / The Biology of the Snallygaster, by Thought Potato https://youtu.be/BnV65UHOjTE?si=3ko9W_H_Yoja5mZM

    The Racist Roots of Maryland’s Mythical Snallygaster Monster https://youtu.be/mxrRXhMHYiI?si=d3A_ZdbNf2894zI9 (Watch the tone shift for the two African American anchors from playful/goofy to “oh my…” when the guest tells them about the racist implication.)

    Probably the most recent “sighting” of a Snallygaster… in West Virginia. https://youtu.be/_R3Sz1on1t8?si=09bBjgPQbCyU7aDG and https://youtu.be/P8TKT76Rx9s?si=QEkFGhPVdBSO7uTA

    How to turn the Snallygaster into a brilliant random encounter and Adventure call in Dungeons & Dragons. https://youtu.be/12NpNjMY54o?si=VoRDNwTwHkAOFlI5

    The American Snallygaster Museum

    The Unsettling Legend of Maryland's Native Cryptid, the Snallygaster - Atlas Obscura

    The Snallygaster: A Terrifying Creature of American Folklore

    Snollygoster - Political Dictionary






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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • Albatwitch
    Jan 16 2026

    So cuddly and cute, but pelts you with fruit.

    We've covered the 'squatch,

    And even a witch,

    But none are so fun,

    As the Albatwitch!


    Albatwitch

    https://www.pennlive.com/uniquelypa/2023/10/in-search-of-the-albatwitch-whats-the-evidence-for-lancaster-countys-famous-cryptid.html

    https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/albatwitch-lancaster-little-bigfoot

    Chickies Rock

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/QnC1jMuyXuru2KhKA

    One particular sighting occurred on the evening of Saturday, April 13, 2024, in Lancaster Conservancy’s Fishing Creek Nature Preserve.

    https://maps.app.goo.gl/cD5RGKaP7HmMB5av7

    The Story

    https://unchartedlancaster.com/2024/06/22/albatwitch-sighting-in-southern-lancaster-countys-fishing-creek-nature-preserve/

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    1 hr and 4 mins
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