Welcome to In Three Poems, where we read three poems with a different guest poet each week, and the third poem is always a work by another poet, chosen by our featured poet.

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This episode David talks with poet, editor and podcaster Dr. Han VanderHart about the influences of rural life on childhood as well as poetry, and how a poet can bridge the gulf of experience from one reader to another.

POEM 1

“Invocation” by Han VanderHart, read by David.

POEM 2

“Ode to Knowing,” written and read by Han.

POEM 3

“Boston Seaport, July 2024” Catherine Rockwood," published in Moist Poetry Journal.

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HanVanderHart.com

Han's Books

Dogwitch by Catherine Rockwood

Han VanderHart is a queer writer living in Durham, NC. They are the author of Larks (Ohio University Press, 2025), winner of the 2024 Hollis Summers Poetry Prize, the chapbook Hawk & Moon (Bottlecap Press, 2025), and What Pecan Light (Bull City Press, 2021), and have poetry and essays published in Poetry Daily, Kenyon Review, The American Poetry Review, Poetry Magazine, Poetry Northwest, Prairie Schooner, Poet Lore, AGNI, and elsewhere. Han hosts Of Poetry Podcast and co-edits River River Books.

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Welcome to In Three Poems, where we read three poems with a different guest poet each episode, and the third poem is always a work by another poet, chosen by our guest.

David talks poetry, faith, and folklore, method and mythology, with Nigerian poet and professor of English, Saddiq Dzukogi.

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POEM 1. “Ring” First published in Poetry Magazine (September, 2021), read by David

POEM 2. Excerpt from Bakandamiya: An Elegy (University of Nebraska Press, 2025), read by Saddiq.

POEM 3. "Vows” by Gbenga Adesina from Death Does Not End at the Sea (University of Nebraska Press, 2025), read by Saddiq.

Links:

Ring by Saddiq Dzukogi, Poetry Magazine

Saddiq Dzukogi

Saddiq’s Books

Gbenga Adesina’ Death Does Not End at the Sea

Saddiq's Bio:

Saddiq Dzukogi is the author of Your Crib, My Qibla (Nebraska, 2021), winner of the Derek Walcott Prize for Poetry and the Julie Suk Award-- and shortlisted for the Nigeria Prize for Literature, and most recently, Bakandamiya: An Elegy (Nebraska, 2025).His poems have appeared in Poetry Magazine, Kenyon Review, Prairie Schooner, Narrative Magazine, Ploughshares, Guernica Magazine, Poetry London, Best American Experimental Writing Anthology, and Cincinnati Review. He has received fellowships from the Nebraska Arts Council, Mississippi Arts Commission, and Cave Canem.

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David and poet Marjorie Maddox talk poetry, inspiration, loss, and transformation as they read poems together and discuss her latest collections, Hover Here, Small Earthly Space, and Seeing Things.

Welcome to In Three Poems, where we read three poems with a different guest poet each episode, and the third poem is always a work by another poet, chosen by our guest.

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POEM 1

“How We Are Found” by Marjorie Maddox, from one of her recent collections, Hover Here. Read by David.

POEM 2

“Ode to Everything” from Seeing Things by Marjorie Maddox. Read by Marjorie

POEM 3

“Litany of Flights” by Laura Reece Hogan, read by Marjorie Maddox. Thank you to Laura Reece Hogan for permission to read her poem on the podcast.

Links:

Marjorie Maddox

Hover Here

Small Earthly Space

Seeing Things

Keystone Poetry: Contemporary Poets on Pennsylvania

Marjorie Maddox:

Professor Emerita of English and Creative Writing at the Lock Haven campus of Commonwealth University, 2023 Monson Arts Fellow, a poetry editor of Presence, and radio host of WPSU-FM'’s Poetry Moment, Marjorie Maddox has published seventeen collections of poetry, including Begin with a Question from Paraclete Press (Illumination Book Award and International Book Award); How Can I Look It Up When I Don’t Know How It’s Spelled? Spelling Mnemonics and Grammar Tricks (Kelsay Books 2024); Seeing Things (Wildhouse Publishing February 2024), Hover Here (Broadstone Books, January 2026); Keystone Poetry: Contemporary Poets on Pennsylvania (Penn State University Press, 2025).

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David and Monica Prince have a fun but also heavy discussion about women and trauma, and about the writing of poetry and the production of choreopoems. The discussion ranges from word choice in poem to forms like lipograms and the distinctions between womanhood and motherhood.

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POEM 1

“Political Poem as Prayer”, written by Monica Prince, published in Movable Type ( 2023), read by David.

POEM 2

From “Hysteria,” a Choreopoem in Progress, written and read by Monica.

POEM 3

“I am unfit to raise daughters,” written by Jessica Nirvana Ram, from Earthly Gods (2024, Variant Lit), read by Monica Prince.

Links:

monicaprince.com

What Is a Choreopoem?

Monica Prince, Associate Professor of Activist & Performance Writing, serves as Director of Africana Studies at Susquehanna University in Pennsylvania. She is the author of Roadmap: A Choreopoem, How to Exterminate the Black Woman: A Choreopoem, Instructions for Temporary Survival, and Letters from the Other Woman, with another choreopoem, FORCE, forthcoming in Janaury 2026. Her work appears in Twisted Tongue, In Short, Wildness, The Missouri Review, The Texas Review, The Rumpus, MadCap Review, American Poetry Journal, and elsewhere. As one of the foremost choreopoem scholars, Prince writes, teaches, and performs choreopoems across the nation.

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David reads poetry with his good friend and fellow poet Philip F. Clark. The first two poems are by Philip and from his book The Carnival of Affection (Sibling Rivalry Press, 2017). The third poem was chosen by Philip and written by Cavafy.

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POEM 1

“Lacrimosa” from The Carnival of Affection (Sibling Rivalry Press, 2017), read by David.

POEM 2

“The Beggar's Welcome'” from The Carnival of Affection, read by Philip.

POEM 3

“The Afternoon Sun” by C.P. Cavafy, read by Philip F. Clark. Originally published in "The City" from C.P. Cavafy: Collected Poems. Translated by Edmund Keeley and Philip Sherrard. Translation Copyright © 1975, 1992 by Edmund Keeley and Philip Sherrard.

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"The Afternoon Sun"

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David chats with Donna Vorreyer about her collection Unrivered. As is our custom, we read two poems by our guest poet, one by David and the other by our guest. The third poem is also read by our guest poet, and it can be a poem by anyone from the present or past.

The discussion is lively and includes the structure of Unriverred, which is anchored in a heroic crown of sonnets.

Poem 1. “If You Go Into the Woods Today,” from Unrivered by Donna Vorreyer. Read by David

Poem 2. “I Fail in Many Tenses” by Donna Vorreyer. Read by Donna.

Poem 3. “What Is There to Say,” by Jack Gilbert and read by Donna.

“What Is There to Say” was published in The Great Fires (1994, Knopf/Random House) and later in Collected Poems (2012), and originally in Poetry Magazine, January 1965. Used with permission by Knopf Doubleday Rights

Donna’s Bio:

Donna Vorreyer is the author of four full-length collections of poetry and seven chapbooks! In this episode she and I are reading from her latest collection, Unrivered from Sundress Publications, published in 2025. Her recent work has appeared in Ploughshares, Pleiades, Poet Lore, Colorado Review, Baltimore Review, Salamander, and many other journals. She is the co-founder/co-editor of Asterales: A Journal of Arts & Letters.

Donna hosts the online poetry reading/interview series A Hundred PItchers of Honey, which maintains a YouTube archive.

More Links:

Purchase Unrivered from Sundress Publications.

DonnaVorreyer.com

Asterales: A Journal of Arts and Letters

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I am so lucky to get the chance to do this. Some of the poets I've been talking with are artists I'm honored to be meeting for the first time. But today, I get to read poems with a BFF who I've known for almost thirty years. Please enjoy this poetry chat with my dear friend Joel Showalter.

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Poem 1

“In the Nursing Home,” by Joel Showalter, read by David, as published in December magazine, Volume 31, spring/summer, 2020.

Poem 2

“Steam,” by Joel Showalter, read by Joel, as published in Mud Season Review, Volume 3, 2017

Poem 3

“Monet Refuses the Operation,” by poet Lisel Mueller. From the collection, Second Language: Poems, published Louisiana State University Press, 1986 and used with permission of the publisher.

Joel's Bio:

Joel Showalter received his bachelor’s degree in English and writing from Indiana Wesleyan University. His work has been published in The Carolina Quarterly, December, Delmarva Review, Mud Season Review, and The Christian Century. He works as editorial director at a marketing agency in Columbus, Ohio.

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David has a delightful conversation with Jehanne Dubrow about her latest books, a poetry collection entitled Civilians and a craft resource called The Wounded Line: A Guide to Writing Poems of Trauma.

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Poem One: “My Husband’s Father” From Civilians Louisiana State University Press, 2025, read by David

Poem Two: “Civilians,” a villanelle, one of the title poems of the book, read by Jehanne

Poem Three: “Self Portrait as a Psychopomp,” read here by Jehanne. Written by Lindsay Lusby as it appears in The Wounded Line: A guide to Writing Poems of Trauma (University of Mexico Press, 2025), used by permission of the author and the poet.

Links:

The poem “Civillian.”

Lindsay Lusby's website.

To order Jehanne’s books click here.

Jehanne's Bio:

Jehanne Dubrow is the author of ten books of poems, including most recently, Civilians (Louisiana State University Press, 2025), and three books of creative nonfiction, throughsmoke: an essay in notes (New Rivers Press, 2019), Taste: A Book of Small Bites (Columbia University Press, 2022), and Exhibitions: Essays on Art & Atrocity (University of New Mexico Press, 2023). Her previous poetry collections are Wild Kingdom, Simple Machines, American Samizdat, Dots & Dashes, The Arranged Marriage, Red Army Red, Stateside, From the Fever-World, and The Hardship Post. She has co-edited two anthologies, The Book of Scented Things: 100 Contemporary Poems about Perfume and Still Life with Poem: Contemporary Natures Mortes in Verse. Her craft book, The Wounded Line: A Guide to Writing Poems of Trauma, was published by the University of New Mexico Press in 2025. Jehanne’s fourth book of creative nonfiction, Frivolity: A Defense, is forthcoming from Columbia University Press.

Jehanne’s poems have appeared in POETRY, Ploughshares, Prairie Schooner, Southern Review, Alaska Quarterly Review, American Life in Poetry, The New York Times Magazine, The Slowdown, The Academy of American Poets, as well as on Poetry Daily, Verse Daily, and in numerous other venues. Recent essays have appeared in The New England Review, Colorado Review, Lilith, The Writer’s Chronicle, Poets & Writers, and Literary Hub. She is the founding editor of the national literary journal, Cherry Tree.

For more about Jehanne and her work, click here.

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