Episode 3 — The Expert: In Conversation with Richard Carwardine

The lesson was Take Your Sense of Humor Seriously. Lincoln was the leader. Now meet the man who wrote the book on it — literally.

This episode, Elaine sits down with Richard Carwardine — one of the world's foremost Lincoln scholars and the author of Lincoln's Sense of Humor — for a conversation that goes deep into the wit, wisdom, and calculated genius behind one of history's most beloved leaders. This is the kind of interview that makes you want to clear your afternoon and take notes.

Richard unpacks how Lincoln's humor wasn't just personality — it was policy. A tool he returned to again and again to navigate impossible pressure, manage difficult people, and keep himself grounded when the world was anything but. If you thought you understood Lincoln after Episode 2, this conversation is going to take you even further.

Season 1: Self Leadership continues — and this episode is proof that the best lessons don't just come from history books. Sometimes they come from the people who wrote them.

🎙️ A special thank you to Higher Ground Leadership at Gettysburg for making this conversation possible.

Higher Ground Leadership at Gettysburg

📚 Learn More About Richard Carwardine:

• 🔗 Richard Carwardine — Wikipedia
• 📖 Lincoln's Sense of Humor — Goodreads

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