You probably know the name Malcolm Naden. But do you know theirs?

This episode revisits one of Australia’s most widely known manhunts—but not in the way it’s usually told. While the search through the New South Wales bush became the story many remember, this was never really about the man or the hunt.

It was always about the lives that were lost.

We centre the stories of Lateesha Nolan and Kristy Scholes—two women, two mothers, deeply loved, whose names have too often been overshadowed by what came after.

Told in reverse, this episode moves from sentencing… to confession… to arrest… and back through the years of sightings and near misses… before returning to where it all began. Not to build suspense—but to remove it. To strip away the mythology and bring the focus back to what actually matters.

This is a story about memory, media, and the way narratives shift over time. It asks who gets remembered… and who gets left behind.

And ultimately, it brings this story back to where it always belonged.

With them.

In Part 2 of this conversation with Sarah Bignell, we move beyond the encounters themselves and into what happens after they’re shared.

Because seeing something is one thing… saying it out loud is something else entirely.

Drawing on years of speaking with witnesses, Sarah shares the emotional weight these experiences can carry—how silence, skepticism, and ridicule shape the way people hold their stories, and what it takes to speak about them at all.

This episode explores the human side of the unexplained: the cost of being dismissed, the impact of not being believed, and the importance of spaces where people can be heard without judgment.

And beyond that, it asks something deeper—not just what people are saying… but what might be being communicated through these experiences, and whether we’re willing to truly listen.

For more information and links to Sarah’s work and Yowie Central pop over to the show notes on our website. https://www.ifthesetreescouldtalk.com.au

In this episode of If These Trees Could Talk, Shannon sits down with Sarah Bignell, host of Yowie Central, to explore the growing body of firsthand Yowie encounter stories across Australia—and the deeper questions they raise.

After years of speaking with witnesses, Sarah has heard hundreds of accounts from everyday people. While each story is unique, patterns begin to emerge: similar descriptions, repeated behaviours, and a consistent sense that these encounters are anything but random.

Some describe fleeting glimpses in the bush. Others recount something far more complex—an awareness, an intelligence, an interaction that feels intentional.

There are stories of communication beyond words. Of movement that challenges our understanding of the physical world. And of experiences that leave people questioning not just what they saw… but what we truly understand about reality itself.

From the possibility of undiscovered species to theories that stretch into the interdimensional, spiritual, and deeply place-based, this conversation steps into the unknown without trying to force answers.

Because beyond the theories… there are people. And the more these stories are shared, the harder they become to dismiss.

If you’d like to explore more of Sarah’s work, you can find her through Yowie Central, with links available in the show notes at ifthesetreescouldtalk.com.au.