In this episode, we sit down with Chief Jason Salazar of the Visalia Police Department and the current President of the California Police Chiefs Association. Chief Salazar began his career more than 30 years ago as a Community Service Officer, worked his way through every rank, and has now served as Chief for over a decade.

He shares what it is like to grow alongside an organization, navigate shifting relationships as you move into leadership, and lead the same community that shaped you. From defining moments and hard lessons to wellness, mentorship, and the responsibility of balancing local leadership with statewide service, this conversation offers an honest look at leadership built over time.

This episode invites you to reflect on the power of purpose, the importance of consistency, and the connections that sustain a long and meaningful career.

In this episode, retired Chief Neil H. Gang joins us for a candid conversation about legacy, leadership, and what it really means to retire well. After 36 years in law enforcement, including nearly a decade leading the Pinole Police Department, Neil became known for innovative programs, people-first leadership, and creating the Asher Model, an organizational wellness framework now used across the country.

We look back at the moments that shaped his career, from his early days in New Jersey to the experiences that pushed him to champion wellness and culture change. Neil also shares how he prepared to step away from the badge, what surprised him about retirement, and how he continues serving the profession through consulting, speaking, and running his own podcast.

This episode brings clear insight, honest reflections, and practical wisdom for leaders at any stage of their career.

To learn more about 4th Watch Consulting or to connect with Neil directly, reach out at 4thwatchconsulting@gmail.com

In this episode, Richmond Police Chief Bisa French joins us for a grounded and deeply personal conversation about what it means to lead when life feels anything but steady. Chief French began her career in Richmond in 1998 and, in 2020, became the first woman and the first African American and Latina to lead the department. Her path has been marked by moments of transition, growth, and navigating challenges both public and private.

We explore the early experiences that shaped her leadership, the responsibility she stepped into during a time of organizational upheaval, and the deeply personal crisis that tested her resilience in ways few leaders ever face. Chief French shares how she stayed centered during her nine months on leave, who she leaned on, and the habits that helped her show up for her team even when her own world felt unsteady.

This conversation offers honest insight into resilience beyond the buzzwords, the balance between transparency and strength, and what it means to lead authentically through uncertainty. Whether you’re a new supervisor, a seasoned chief, or somewhere in between, Chief French’s story is a reminder that leadership is not about being unshaken, but about learning to stay steady at the center.