Tilak Devasher is the author of four widely acclaimed books on Pakistan and a former member of the National Security Advisory Board. He lives and breathes Pakistan, closely tracking its politics, military, and society.

Uttam Kumar Sinha is a scholar and commentator on transboundary rivers, climate change, and the Arctic. He is a Senior Fellow at the Manohar Parrikar Institute of Defence Studies and Analyses and the author of 'Trial by Water: Indus Basin and India-Pakistan Relations' (2025) and 'Indus Basin Uninterrupted' (2021).

In this edition of the ANI Podcast with Smita Prakash, the guests discuss the Indus Waters Treaty, signed between India and Pakistan in 1960, and how it has become the latest flashpoint between the two countries. Will Pakistan face a water crisis due to the suspension of the treaty? More on Ayub Khan, Nehru, Modi and Asim Munir.

Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction

02:00 – Indus Waters Treaty Geography

07:54 – Nehru's Vision

14:39 – Importance of Chenab

22:12 – Pakistan's Water Crisis

27:50 – India's Dam Projects

35:40 – Abeyance of Water Treaty

40:07 – India's Water Storage Capacity

46:20 – Chenab-Beas Link Project

54:49 – Pak's Diplomatic Strategy

1:03:20 – How Indus Waters Treaty Was Signed

1:11:23 – Pakistan's Internal Water Conflict

1:18:10 – India's Narrative