Max Matson, Marketing Director at Planetizen, joins E-Coffee with Experts to break down how knowledge-led brands build trust and authority in a search landscape reshaped by AI overviews and generative answers.

Max shares their journey from copywriting to leading marketing for a 26-year-old industry platform and explains why having real domain experts create your content is the fastest way to build credibility with niche audiences.

They dive into the shift from institutional trust to individual trust, why brands without decades of authority need to find and empower credible voices in their space, and how their team approaches AI visibility tracking alongside traditional SEO. Max also unpacks cross-channel measurement challenges as attribution windows become less reliable, from UTM limitations to back-end tracking to using LLMs to reconstruct disconnected data points.

The conversation also covers the practical differences between agency and in-house marketing careers, how sales and marketing should operate as one pipeline, and why young marketers should resist trend-chasing and stay grounded in core marketing fundamentals before experimenting outward.

If you work in marketing, SEO, or content strategy for a niche or technical industry, this episode offers a grounded look at building credibility that actually holds up as search continues to change.

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In this episode, we discuss:

00:00 - 00:28: Introduction

00:28 - 02:18: Max's Career Journey

02:18 - 03:17: Running Their Own Agency

03:17 - 04:31: Hands-On Creation and Strategy

04:31 - 05:44: Marketing to Technical Audiences

05:44 - 06:47: Aligning Sales and Marketing

06:47 - 08:25: Content in the Age of AI Search

08:25 - 08:49: Favorite AI Tools

08:49 - 09:59: Cross-Channel Attribution Challenges

09:59 - 10:38: Tracking AI Visibility

10:38 - 11:43: Building Credibility in Niche Markets

11:43 - 13:14: Agency vs In-House Challenges

13:14 - 14:48: Advice for Young Marketers

14:48 - 15:50: Closing Thoughts

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