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The Depolarization Podcast

The Depolarization Podcast

By: Baltazar Faunbäck & Ela Ramos | The Empathy Institute
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Real Dialogue Across Political and Social Divides

Baltazar and Ela don't always agree, yet they both want to connect. Each episode they dig into the topics that divide people — politics, culture, society — and share what genuinely triggers them trying to actually understand where the other is coming to show what it looks like to disagree with empathy.

Part of The Empathy Institute, each episode explores what it really takes to listen, disagree well, and find common ground in a polarized world.

The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Ela Ramos.

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Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com

Follow Ela: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/

Follow Baltazar: https://baltazarfaunback.com/

The Empathy Institute 2026 Science Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Joe Rogan: Can we disagree with empathy? (Part 2)

    Joe Rogan: Can we disagree with empathy? (Part 2)
    May 26 2026

    Baltazar is a long time Joe Rogan listener. In Ela's circles Joe Rogan is “cancelled”.

    This is the second episode where we sit down to actually talk about what it triggers in us to talk about Joe Rogan, what it says about our values, and whether we can genuinely understand each other's perspective and hold the pain underneath it.

    We navigate this conversation with care as our conversations touches many sensitive topics such as censorship, freedom of speech, racism, American politics, and Donald Trump.

    The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Ela Ramos.

    Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/

    Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com

    Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/

    Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:

    https://baltazarfaunback.com/
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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • Baltazar likes Joe Rogan and Ela doesn’t. Can we talk about it and stay friends? (Part 1)

    Baltazar likes Joe Rogan and Ela doesn’t. Can we talk about it and stay friends? (Part 1)
    May 26 2026

    Baltazar is a long time Joe Rogan listener. In Ela's circles Joe Rogan is “cancelled”.

    In this first episode we sit down to actually talk about why, what it triggers, what it says about our values, and whether we can genuinely understand each other's perspective and hold the pain underneath it.

    We navigate this conversation with care as our conversations touches many sensitive topics such as censorship, freedom of speech, racism, American politics, and Donald Trump.

    The Depolarization Podcast is a collaboration between The Empathy Institute and Ela Ramos.

    Follow the podcast: https://thedepolarizationpodcast.com/

    Follow The Empathy Institute: theempathyinstitute.com

    Follow Ela and learn about her trainings and workshops: https://www.radicalhearttherapy.com/

    Follow Baltazar and sign up for his new book:

    https://baltazarfaunback.com/
    Show More Show Less
    47 mins
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