In Episode 209, we are recasting our episode with Keeley Hagen, Colorado State Head Coach, former assistant coach at University of Texas and University of Tennessee, former USWNT, Sky Blue FC, and Atlanta Beat player, 3-time All-American defender at University of Tennessee, wife and mother, in which she talks with Phil and Paul about what drives her to lead her players with excellence, lessons learned from her playing and coaching career, leadership lessons gleaned from her most influential coach and from her teammates, how she is using lessons from the game in her marriage, how she is using DISC in her coaching at CSU, how she overcame injuries throughout her career, and which Jobson she most fears on the field. Specifically, Keeley discusses:

· Her personal story, how he developed her passion for soccer, leadership, and coaching and how she got to be where he is today (5:55)

· What is was like to coach against the legend, Paul Jobson, and who is the most intimidating presence in the Jobson household (9:38)

· Her personal why and life purpose and how she lives it out each day (12:21)

· The DISC training Phil did with her CSU team last summer, how she is using it with her team, and why she thinks it is important for coaches to understand it and use it with their teams (14:28)

· Some defining moments in her playing career and what she learned from them (19:54)

· How she navigates shying away from adversity and injuries when we know how much our kids learn from overcoming adversity (23:31)

· What her injuries taught her about life and her identity (26:45)

· Her message to people going through injury recovery (29:03)

· Her most influential coach and the life and leadership lessons learned from her (30:10)

· Her advice to young assistant coaches in the college ranks (34:34)

· Things she is using as a head coach that she only learned because she was an assistant first (38:17)

· Players she played with that had the greatest impact on her, and what she learned from them (42:40)

· How she has used lessons learned from the game in her marriage (45:48)

· Her book recommendations (49:57)

Resources and Links from this Episode

· Uncut Video of the Episode

· Warrior Way Soccer

· Phil's email for DISC Training

· Chop Wood, Carry Water: How to Fall in Love with the Process of Becoming Great, by Joshua Medcalf

· Win in the Dark: Some think you shine under the bright lights, the bright lights only reveal your work in the dark, by Joshua Medcalf and Lucas Jadin

In Episode 208, we are recasting our great conversation with legendary coach, Schellas Hyndman, United Soccer Coaches Hall of Fame Member, former Head Coach of FC Dallas, SMU Men's Soccer (where he coached for 24 years), GCU Men's Soccer, Eastern Illinois Men's Soccer, and Murray State Men's Soccer, husband, and father. In the episode, he talked with Phil and Paul about lessons learned during his incredible childhood, playing, and coaching journey, how his martial arts background translates to the soccer pitch, building trust and accountability in our teams, some stories about how he built trust with players and kept them accountable to the team standards, why coaching in the MLS was one of the best things he has ever done AND one of the worst things he has ever done, the most influential coaches in his life, changing your story, and much more. Specifically, Coach Hyndman discusses:

· His personal story and coaching journey, including how he grew his passion for soccer, leadership, and coaching, and what he is doing in retirement (4:36)

· How his family fled Macau and made their way to the US during his childhood (23:41)

· His personal why/life purpose and how he is living it out today (30:31)

· Lessons he learned from martial arts that he has used on the soccer pitch and the importance of cross-discipline learning (35:22)

· How his experiences in his "estagio" (i.e., apprentice coaching) in Brazil shaped his coaching in the college game in the US (44:03)

· The importance of building trust and creating an accountability system in our teams (50:52)

· His experience coaching in the MLS professional game and how it was similar and different from the college game. Why coaching in the pro ranks was the best and worst thing he has ever done (54:10)

· Why we need to pour into our young talent, particularly the underprivileged young players, and keep them accountable to values and morals, and how we can do it – and a story about a great player from South America that will definitely make you think (1:01:00)

· His most influential coaches and how he is using the lessons learned from them in his life today (1:06:32)

· How he is using lessons learned from the beautiful game in his marriage and parenting (1:12:04)

· His book and other recommendations (1:16:40)

Resources and Links from this Episode

· Video of the Episode

· HSEL Facebook Group

· Warrior Way Soccer

· Providence World (Donations to HSEL Podcast)

· Coaching the Bigger Game Program

· Phil's email for DISC Training

· Changing Your Story: How to Take Control of Your Life, Create Change, and Achieve Your Goals, Bill Beswick

Living on the Volcano: The Secrets of Surviving as a Football Manager, Michael Calvin

In Episode 207, we are recasting our second interview with Don Williams, SRUSA Head of Operations for the Americas and former college coach at every level. He talks with Paul and Phil about modern trends impacting youth soccer and college recruitment. They explore the implications of the transfer portal, the challenges and opportunities related to international player recruitment, and how these transformations affect high school and club soccer. Williams shares his experiences with helping players navigate the complexities of college soccer aspirations and emphasizes the importance of intrinsic motivation and appropriate fit over superficial labels. Issues such as NIL (name, image, likeness) and the potential changes in college sports dynamics are also addressed. Specifically, they cover:

· 05:38 What Don's been up to since the last time we had him on HSEL

· 06:51 Transfer Portal and College Soccer Landscape

· 21:44 Intrinsic Motivation in Soccer

· 27:35 Changes in Youth and College Soccer

· 38:35 The Impact of Adult Expectations on Youth Sports

· 39:46 The Pursuit of Status and Its Emotional Toll

· 41:18 Finding the Right Fit

· 42:39 Balancing Competition and Enjoyment

· 46:21 The College Soccer Dilemma

· 54:55 The Role of International Players in College Soccer

· 01:08:13 Future Trends and Challenges in College Sports

Resources and Links from this Episode

· SRUSA Website

· Uncut Video of the Episode

· HSEL Facebook Group

· Warrior Way Soccer

· Phil's email for DISC Coaching and Training