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This week on Hope Comes to Visit, I’m joined by my long-time friend Jessica Ashley—the Divorce Coach for Moms (CDC Certified Divorce Coach®), award-winning writer, and pink-haired powerhouse helping women move through divorce with clarity, community, and yes… a little cussing. We talk about identity, grief that resurfaces in tiny moments, and how to be “amicable” with yourself when co-parenting isn’t collaborative.

I have so many favorite moments from this episode - but Jessica helps women move through divorce with grace, creativity, and community. We talk about what it means to put yourself at the center of your life, how to communicate with kids and exes, and why tiny, steady steps matter more than grand gestures.

We cover

• The moment Jessica knew divorce coaching was her calling (“like a bolt of lightning”)
• The 3 buckets of her coaching: logistics, communication strategy, identity
• Why “there’s no such thing as a broken marriage—only an evolving one”
• Being targeted online for empowering women (and why that’s threatening)
• Practical ways to feel less alone in the loud/quiet chaos of divorce

Connect with Jessica

• Website: https://divorcecoachformoms.com
• Instagram: @divorcecoachformoms
• TikTok: @divorcecoachformoms

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Chapters
00:00 Cold open — “Laugh, cry, cuss—it’s all OK here.”
00:30 Welcome + who Jessica is
02:00 The post that changed everything
04:20 “Bolt of lightning”—how coaching chose her
06:45 The 3 buckets: logistics, comms, identity
09:58 Grief that resurfaces in tiny moments
12:40 Empowering women online (and the backlash)
16:20 “Not broken—evolving” co-parenting reality check
20:30 First steps when you’re overwhelmed
23:40 How Jessica defines hope
26:20 Books + what’s next

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New episodes drop every Monday, so you can begin your week with a little light and a lot of hope.

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Season 2, Episode 3

What does it look like to love someone through addiction—without losing yourself? My dear friend Tina Hamby shares the messy middle of her marriage: the years her husband Adam was drinking, the boundaries that kept her safe, the moment everything changed, and the daily practices that keep their extraordinary family grounded now. We talk faith, community, parenting through guilt, and why “nothing changes if nothing changes.”

Listen for:
• The difference between fixing and loving
• Boundaries that protect you (and your relationship)
• Finding your recovery “thing” ( prayer, movement, community, AA)
• Talking with kids—and letting hope grow at home

00:00 Cold open: “It’s okay not to be okay…”
01:20 Meet Tina & why this conversation matters
03:30 The love story (and the first red flags)
05:55 “Unpredictable weather”: what living with addiction felt like
08:40 Trying to lead by example—and why it backfired
12:10 Triggers, safety, and setting real boundaries
17:20 The turning point: prayer, “Chainbreaker,” and choosing life
20:30 Early sobriety at home: money, peace, presence
24:00 Parenting through guilt; making room for both gratitude and ache
28:10 What she’d do differently; therapy for the partner
31:00 “Find your thing”: AA, faith, movement, community (Kava)
35:15 The boundary that held: love and consequences
40:10 From storm to rainbow: family now
44:10 Tina’s message to partners who want to stay
45:30 Hope, defined

Special Guest: Tina Marie Hamby — IG/FB: @TinaHambyMUA (hair/makeup & wedding officiant)

Thank you for listening to Hope Comes to Visit. If this conversation helps, follow the show, share it with someone who needs hope today, and leave a review - it helps others find their way to these conversations.

New episodes drop every Monday, so you can begin your week with a little light and a lot of hope.

For more stories, reflections, and ways to connect, visit www.DanielleElliottSmith.com or follow along on Instagram @daniellesmithtv and @HopeComestoVisit

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When the marriage ends but the season isn’t over, what does it look like to stay on the same team? In this candid conversation, I sit down with my ex-husband (and friend) Jeff Smith to share the co-parenting playbook that’s worked for us: kids-first decisions, private huddles + public alignment, respect over ego, and informed support through recovery. No trick plays—just fundamentals we run every day.

Today’s game plan

• Kids-First Offense: decisions that put the children on the scoreboard, not our egos
• The Huddle Rule: disagree in private, align in front of the kids
• Support in Recovery: why addiction isn’t a decision—and what real support sounds like
• Forgiveness = Fitness: how letting go brings you peace (and better play)
• Launching the Rookies: why we pushed for out-of-state schools and independence

Chapters
00:00 Why this conversation now
01:04 What made co-parenting work
06:02 Supporting sobriety (for real)
10:46 Pride, growth, modeling for our kids
12:10 Advice for families walking with addiction
16:47 Forgiveness that brings peace
24:41 Our top co-parenting rules
30:27 Launching kids far from home
33:21 Choosing happiness & team mentality
35:34 Don’t bad-mouth the other parent
36:48 Jeff’s definition of hope
37:30 Close

Links & resources mentioned

Atomic Habits — James Clear

Elizabeth Vargas, Between Breaths (for loved ones of someone struggling with addiction)

Connect with Jeff - LinkedIn

Thank you for listening to Hope Comes to Visit. If this conversation helps, follow the show, share it with someone who needs hope today, and leave a review - it helps others find their way to these conversations.

New episodes drop every Monday, so you can begin your week with a little light and a lot of hope.

For more stories, reflections, and ways to connect, visit www.DanielleElliottSmith.com or follow along on Instagram @daniellesmithtv and @HopeComestoVisit