Grit Meets Growth cover art

Grit Meets Growth

Grit Meets Growth

By: Grit Meets Growth Podcast
Listen for free

Chris Cathers and John Gamades bring you Grit Meets Growth... The podcast where we explore the power of getting uncomfortable, making things happen, and creating a magnetic life. Are you ready?

Chris Cathers is the co-founder and CEO of Octellient, an information security expert, advisor and coach, and a cancer survivor.

John Gamades is a co-founder and partner at the marketing agency OrangeBall Creative and the author of the Depth Not Width blog.

Both are proud husbands, dads, and leaders in all they do. Having experienced adversity, challenges, the pressure of being entrepreneurs, Grit Meets Growth is the authentic and raw sharing of their journeys.Copyright Grit Meets Growth Podcast Economics
Episodes
  • Revisiting Episode 40 with Dr. Cindra Kamphoff on Grit, High-Performance, and Purpose

    Revisiting Episode 40 with Dr. Cindra Kamphoff on Grit, High-Performance, and Purpose
    Jun 17 2026
    Some conversations are worth revisiting.

    As we continue exploring the intersection of grit, growth, and purpose, we're bringing back one of our favorite episodes from the Grit Meets Growth archive. In Episode 40, we sit down with Dr. Cindra Kamphoff, a nationally recognized performance psychologist, bestselling author, speaker, and coach who has spent her career helping athletes, business leaders, and high performers unlock their potential.

    Cindra has worked with organizations including the Minnesota Vikings, USA Track & Field, and Fortune 500 companies. She is the author of Beyond Grit and host of the High Performance Mindset Podcast, which has reached listeners in more than 120 countries. Yet what makes this conversation so powerful isn't her impressive résumé. It's her belief that adversity can become a catalyst for growth, that courage often shows up disguised as discomfort, and that the breakthroughs we seek are usually found on the other side of the things that scare us.

    In this episode, we explore what grit really is, why mindset matters, and how high performance extends far beyond sports. Whether you're leading a business, navigating a challenge, pursuing a goal, or simply trying to become the person you're called to be, Cindra shares practical wisdom that can help you move forward with greater confidence and purpose.

    As Cindra says, her purpose is to "guide others to play and live FULL OUT." We think you'll find plenty of inspiration to do exactly that in this conversation.

    Enjoy this re-release of Episode 40 with Dr. Cindra Kamphoff.
    Show More Show Less
    55 mins
  • Where Faith Fits Into Conversations About Grit and Growth - Episode 133

    Where Faith Fits Into Conversations About Grit and Growth - Episode 133
    Jun 3 2026
    Some conversations are planned. Others start with two friends talking and end up somewhere neither expected to go.

    This episode is one of those conversations. What begins as a discussion about identity, purpose, and the lessons coming out of our Built for More men's group quickly turns into a deeper exploration of faith, gratitude, comparison, authenticity, and the masks we wear. Along the way, we share personal stories about success and failure, fatherhood, business, brotherhood, cancer, shame, and the ongoing battle between the voices that build us up and the voices that try to tear us down.

    At its core, this conversation asks a simple but powerful question: Who are you when all the titles, achievements, possessions, and expectations are stripped away?

    Whether you're wrestling with your identity, searching for purpose, carrying a burden in silence, or simply trying to understand what it means to live authentically, we hope this conversation reminds you that you don't have to carry it alone.

    Let's get after it.
    Show More Show Less
    38 mins
  • When The Wall You Built to Protect Yourself Becomes a Prison - Episode 132

    When The Wall You Built to Protect Yourself Becomes a Prison - Episode 132
    May 20 2026
    Most of us don’t plan to isolate. It just happens quietly. A tough week, a little pressure, a feeling that things aren’t fully under control, and before we know it, we start pulling back.

    In this episode, we unpack a question that stopped a room full of men in their tracks: when do you find yourself isolating? What surfaced was honest, familiar, and a little uncomfortable. From stress and overwhelm to imposter syndrome and the fear of not being enough, isolation often shows up as protection. But what we found on the other side of that conversation is just as important. Trust and real connection have a way of breaking through the noise in our heads and reminding us we’re not alone in the fight.

    Here are five insights that come through loud and clear in this conversation:
    1. Isolation is often a protection mechanism, not a need for rest. We tell ourselves we need space, but a lot of the time we’re actually trying to protect our image, our ego, or the fear of being exposed. It feels safer to retreat than to be seen struggling.
    2. Everyone has a version of “I’m not enough” running in the background. Imposter syndrome showed up in different ways for everyone, but the root was similar. Even capable, successful people quietly question whether they measure up. Isolation becomes the place where that doubt grows unchecked.
    3. The voice in your head gets louder and less accurate when you’re alone. Left unchecked, our internal narrative starts to distort reality. Problems feel bigger, perspective disappears, and we start believing things that aren’t true. Isolation doesn’t solve the issue, it amplifies it.
    4. Real connection creates clarity faster than going it alone. The moment guys opened up, things shifted. What could have taken weeks to process internally got worked through in minutes through conversation, perspective, and accountability. The right people help you cut through the noise.
    5. Brotherhood doesn’t happen by accident, it’s built intentionally. Vulnerability, curiosity, trust, care, no judgment, and accountability. Those aren’t automatic. They’re practiced. The depth of the conversation wasn’t luck, it was the result of a group choosing to show up that way consistently.
    ONE TRUTH: Isolation feels like protection, but it quietly pulls you deeper into the very thing you’re trying to escape.
    Show More Show Less
    45 mins
adbl_web_anon_alc_button_suppression_t1
No reviews yet