Today, we're joined by Toyin Ajayi, co-founder and CEO of Cityblock Health and a former doctor who trained in the NHS before taking on the US healthcare.

Toyin built Cityblock to serve people on Medicaid. The company is now around $1.5bn in annual revenue, with 150,000 members across 11 states. Tommy Stadlen talks to her about her giant idea, value-based care: why she thinks paying doctors for procedures instead of real outcomes is the root of America's healthcare crisis, why the patients who need care most are the least likely to walk into a clinic, and why she believes AI poured onto the wrong business model will do real damage.

She speaks about:

• Why "value-based care" is the worst brand for one of the biggest ideas in healthcare
• The first Cityblock patient, an elderly, partially blind man living in a Brooklyn basement
• Why fee-for-service ends up paying more for the amputation than for keeping someone safe at home
• The ~140 million Americans on Medicaid and Medicare, and the market everyone missed
• How AI is pushing the marginal cost of a patient interaction close to zero
• Why most healthcare AI dollars are making the system more expensive, not better
• Growing up in Nairobi during the AIDS epidemic, and the UN moment that outraged her and still drives her
• NHS vs US healthcare - and the one-line answer to which she'd choose...

Building a purpose driven company? Read more about Giant Ventures at www.Giant.vc.

Music credits: Bubble King written and produced by Cameron McLain and Stevan Cablayan aka Vector_XING.

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Today, we're joined by Tony Fadell, the inventor of the iPod and co-inventor of the iPhone. Tony is the founder of Nest (the smart thermostat acquired by Google) and the New York Times best-selling author of Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making.

In this second episode, Tommy Stadlen talks to Tony about his years working alongside Steve Jobs and what he's learned about building a career, why he thinks saying "no" is the most underrated skill in product, and why giving credit away is the thing most leaders get wrong.

He speaks about:

• what Steve Jobs was truly great at, and the one thing he was bad at
• the two types of assholes, and how to tell ego from mission
• why giving credit to your team is the most joyful part of leading
• hustling his way into General Magic with seven months of letters and cold calls
• chasing heroes instead of brands early in your career
• why the best mentors (like Bill Campbell) know people, not tech
• the General Magic crash at 25 that taught him to stay grounded

Building a purpose driven company? Read more about Giant Ventures at www.Giant.vc.

Music credits: Bubble King written and produced by Cameron McLain and Stevan Cablayan aka Vector_XING.

Please note: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. It should not be considered financial, legal, or investment advice. Always consult a licensed professional before making any investment decisions.

Today, we're joined by Tony Fadell, inventor of the iPod, co-inventor of the iPhone, and founder of Nest, acquired by Google. He's also the New York Times bestselling author of Build: An Unorthodox Guide to Making Things Worth Making, and has invested in over 100 companies working across AI, surgery, textiles, and drug discovery.

Tommy Stadlen talks to Tony about why Apple was so close to collapse when it bet on the iPod, why no single AI device will replace the smartphone, and the two-year internal standoff with Steve Jobs that a Wall Street Journal reviewer ended without knowing...

He also speaks about:

• Why Apple had less than 1% market share and $500M in debt when they gambled on the iPod
• "Stay beginner": why great product teams design as if they've never seen the product before
• "Virus of doubt": the Nest approach to making people notice what they'd stopped seeing
• Why the iPhone was really three devices you already owned, merged into one
• General Magic: building the iPhone concept 15 years too early (and what that tells you about timing)
• Why companies (and people) only change when they're close to dying
• Why no single AI device will replace your phone...

Building a purpose driven company? Read more about Giant Ventures at www.Giant.vc.

Music credits: Bubble King written and produced by Cameron McLain and Stevan Cablayan aka Vector_XING.

Please note: The content of this podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only. It should not be considered financial, legal, or investment advice. Always consult a licensed professional before making any investment decisions.