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Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

Getting to Third Space with Lamar and Tom

By: From Klaus Haus Productions featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth
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 A "3rd Space" is a space where two or more people with differing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. In this podcast two lifelong friends, Lamar Roth & Tom Klaus, carve out a Third Space where everything can be on the table for open, straightforward, honest, and, yet kind and respectful inquiry. Getting to Third Space with Lamar & Tom features an exploration of how to talk with one another about significant, even controversial, issues with grace and humor. Occasionally Lamar & Tom will welcome guests to the show.From Klaus Haus Productions, featuring Tom Klaus and Lamar Roth Science Social Sciences
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  • S4E4 - A Conversation with Liz Weaver

    S4E4 - A Conversation with Liz Weaver
    Feb 17 2026
    Liz Weaver joins Lamar and Tom in this episode of Getting to 3rd Space to talk about collaboration, trust, and transitions. Liz retired recently from her role as Co-CEO of Tamarack Institute in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Tamarack is known for its work in catalyzing collective action with diverse leaders to solve major community challenges including ending poverty, building youth futures, building belonging, and addressing climate change in cities and communities, within Canada, and around the world. Liz Weaver spent a significant part of her career with Tamarack where she led teams in creating resources, facilitating change initiatives, and 34,000 learners and members to do the same. In this long-form conversation, Liz, Lamar, and Tom talk about how facilitators can build trust and create collaboration between and among individuals holding diverse ideas. They also discuss Liz’s recent research and publication on workplace transitions and, of course, acts of kindness.Learn MoreFrom Tamarack Institute: Resource HubCollaboration: The Act of Building TrustThe Collaborative OrganizationLiz’s transition guide: The Human Side of Workplace Transitions Other Facilitation Resources CoCreative ConsultingLiberating StructuresSession LabFor Knitters1898 Fisherman’s Knit Hat (sorry, Tom called it the 1892 hat)A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of KindnessKindness seems out of vogue right now. But we don’t believe that to be true. We believe there are a lot of people in our world who are choosing kindness even in the face of cruelty.Do you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to:What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name.Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.Credits:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIFinal review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Ontario, Canada; Original Publishing Date, February 17, 2026.
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    1 hr and 28 mins
  • S4E3 - Snoping Around

    S4E3 - Snoping Around
    Feb 3 2026
    When you are wondering about rumors, conspiracy theories, folklore, fake news, and urban legends, who ya gonna call? Not us…but how about Snopes.com?Today Lamar and Tom start by talking about the upcoming season of the Frederick Flying Cows basketball team and a new photo project that Lamar is undertaking. However, the conversation transitions into a deeper examination of four articles from Snopes.com that illustrate gaslighting (which the guys discussed in their last podcast), information that needs more context, and how misinformation can be linked and result in some terrible outcomes, such as the death of Renee Nicole Good, by manipulating public perception.Learn MoreImage claiming to show Renee Nicole Good's car aimed at ICE officer isn't what it seems ⁠https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/renee-good-car-ice-image/⁠ Repeal of 24/7 Rule for Nurses in Skilled Nursing Care: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rfk-jr-health-department-nurses/ USPS Postmark Rules: https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/12/30/usps-postmark-rules/ Nick Shirley’s investigation into alleged Minnesota day care ‘fraud scandal’: What we know: https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/12/30/nick-shirley-minnesota-daycare-fraud/ A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of KindnessDo you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to:What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Meet Lamar and TomLamar Roth and Tom Klaus are lifelong friends exploring how to get to a 3rd Space - a space where two or more people with opposing viewpoints, ideologies, and worldviews can come together to hear, listen, share, and connect with one another. Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.Credits:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIFinal review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, February 3, 2026.
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • S4E2 - A Table Talk on Truth, Gaslighting, and the Death of Renee Good

    S4E2 - A Table Talk on Truth, Gaslighting, and the Death of Renee Good
    Jan 20 2026
    An American citizen was shot and killed by an ICE officer in Minnesota. The video of the incident was clearly viewed by millions. The truth of what happened is not so clear, especially when the gaslighting starts. In this conversation, Lamar and Tom discuss the recent shooting of Renee Nicole Good in Minneapolis and its implications, particularly as it relates to the concept of gaslighting. They explore how conflicting narratives emerge in the wake of such events, the psychological manipulation involved, and the political ramifications of gaslighting. The discussion also touches on the importance of trust in leadership, the challenges of navigating misinformation, and the complexities of law enforcement accountability. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for critical thinking and due diligence in understanding the truth behind current events.Learn MoreFamily and neighbors mourn woman who was shot by ICE agent and made Minneapolis home (The Associated Press)New video of fatal Minnesota ICE shooting, from officer’s perspective, brings fresh scrutiny (The Associated Press)The War on Perception: Gaslighting in Politics — Francesca Barca Political Gaslighting — Keeps you warm but leaves you in the dark — Fanni Barckzikai and Republikon Institute What is Gaslighting? National Domestic Violence Hotline What is Gaslighting? Types and How to Respond A 3rd Space Survey: Acts of KindnessDo you have an act of kindness that you’d be willing to share? You can participate through a Google Forms Survey at this link: https://forms.gle/5NQakn6bgeXpm2us5There you will find two kindness questions we’d like you to consider and then respond to:What is an act of kindness you’ve received that made a difference to you?What is an act of kindness you have done which you hope changed another person’s life?What do we do with the acts we learn about in this survey? We save them and feature them in our Thanksgiving show each year…anonymously unless you prefer we use your name.Finally, please share this survey because an act of kindness shared begets others.How We Check OurselvesFact Checking: Because there are a lot of things happening…some true, some false, some unbelievable…we use the following fact checking sites. Take a look for yourself:Snopes - https://www.snopes.com/ FactCheck.org - https://www.factcheck.org/ Politifact - https://www.politifact.com/RealClearPolitics - https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ Reuters FactCheck - https://www.reuters.com/fact-check/ Because media can have its own biases, we also rely upon these sites to help us get balanced coverage:Media Bias/Fact Check - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/All Sides - https://www.allsides.com/unbiased-balanced-newsAd Fontes Media Bias Chart - https://app.adfontesmedia.com/chart/interactive Want to watch us do the podcast? Visit the Klaus Haus Productions YouTube Channel at https://www.youtube.com/@KlausHausProductions. Comments? Suggestions? Ideas for guests or topics? Send us a voice message on Spotify or email us at lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and tom3rdSpace@gmail.com.Credits:Wild Opinions and Nonsensical Musings by Lamar Roth & Tom KlausImages by Getty Images, Pexels, Pixabay, Roth Images, and Cyberlink AIFinal review and approval by Jake and Ebie Dawgs Inc. Photos by Lamar Roth are copyrighted by Roth Images, All Rights Reserved. For permissions or additional information: lamar3rdSpace@gmail.com and https://www.rothimages.com/Getting to 3rd Space with Lamar and Tom is produced and sponsored by Klaus Haus Productions LLC and Acorn Consulting, LLC. © 2025. All Rights Reserved. Permissions: hello@klaushausllc.com. No living creature was harmed in the production of this film but a lot of Colombian coffee was consumed.Recorded using Riverside.fm - http://riverside.fm/ - from “home studio” locations in Maryland and Kansas, USA and Iowa; Original Publishing Date, January 20, 2026.
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    57 mins
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