In this episode of Beneath the Transaction, Chris sits down with Ben Fielder, Vice President at NCF Michigan, to explore how giving can move from transactional to transformational.

Ben has spent his career walking alongside individuals and families, helping them steward what they’ve been entrusted with and discover a deeper sense of purpose in how they live and give. With a background in church stewardship, higher education, and relationship-driven philanthropy, Ben brings a thoughtful and grounded perspective on generosity, identity, and legacy.

Together, Chris and Ben explore the connection between purpose and generosity, and how the way we give is often a reflection of who we are becoming. They talk about the importance of living intentionally, the role of faith and identity in shaping our decisions, and why community is essential for creating meaningful, lasting impact.

At its core, this conversation is about more than giving.

It’s about learning to live with purpose in the present— and allowing that purpose to shape how we invest in others.

Because when giving becomes an expression of who we are, it moves beyond transaction… and into transformation.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Transformation 07:05 The Transactional Nature of Philanthropy 13:02 Discovering Meaning and Identity 19:39 The Role of Generosity in Personal Fulfillment 27:51 Navigating Frugality and Faith 34:45 Understanding Collective Identity and Future 46:54 Transforming Philanthropy Through Purpose