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Flanigan's Eco-Logic

Flanigan's Eco-Logic

By: Ted Flanigan
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Flanigan's Eco-Logic, hosted by Ted Flanigan, provides cutting-edge information and insights in sustainability and the clean energy space. Episodes address alternative energy -- featuring solar, storage, microgrids, vehicle grid integration, and energy access. In addition, the podcast covers resources issues -- like water and food issues, and even slow fashion. Flanigan’s enthusiasm, vast experience, and deep network in the energy and environmental arena are palpable as he brings exciting and encouraging green developments to the fore, interviewing and engaging leading policy makers and practitioners throughout the United States and in many countries around the world.© 2026 Flanigan's Eco-Logic Earth Sciences Science
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  • Etelle Higonnet - An Ambassador For Better Coffee Production
    Jun 29 2026
    Etelle Higonnet is the Founder and Director of Coffee Watch. She was born and raised in France, earned her undergraduate degree and law degree from Yale, worked around the world on human rights issues, before pivoting her focus to environmental issues with Greenpeace, the Rainforest Action Network, and others. She is currently based on Copenhagen, Denmark. In this episode Etelle makes it painfully clear that while drinking coffee is a morning ritual for many of us, its production comes with profound social and environmental impacts that must be addressed. Coffee Watch is a non-profit. Its missions is to promote and secure coffee that is grown ethically, sustainably, in dignity for the people who grow it.Some statistics: 180 - 200 million Americans drink an average of three cups per day. There are 800 billion cups consumed each year around the globe. Finland leads the world for the most coffee per person! Americans are more likely to drink coffee than exercise on any given day. We are all addicted... "We love our coffee, ice cream, tiramisu!" It is so great and delicious; it makes the world go round. But it comes with huge hidden costs: poverty, child labor, and slave labor... plus deforestation. "If you are drinking coffee, you are definitely drinking poverty," states Etelle. Only a very few coffee companies pay a living income for the world's 125 million coffee growers. Many are paid $2 - 3 a day, well below the World Bank poverty level. "Another dirty, bitter gift is child labor,"... not after-school-appropriate labor, but backbreaking labor, most often with exposure to toxic pesticides. In Brazil, the world's number one coffee producer, cartels control production, and there, "modern slavery" is not uncommon. Furthermore, Etelle explains that, "you are drinking deforestation." Coffee production is one of the seven largest causes of deforestation: cattle, palm oil, pulp and paper, soy, coca, rubber, and coffee. Cattle - for beef, dog food, and leather - is the largest deforester... and in cases where there is any attention to deforestation, the biggest causes are in the public eye. Coffee production is 1% of the problem and thus gets overlooked despite the scale of its impact: Vietnam has lost forests the size of Luxembourg to coffee; Brazil has lost acreage equivalent to Honduras to deforestation for coffee production. "Your latte every morning could be responsible for cascading impacts, like regional climate change, droughts, and reduced diversity." Etelle makes her point poignantly: "How about an oat milk latte with a side of dead jaguar or dead orangutan? People have no idea that they are drinking mass extinction." As such, she founded Coffee Watch in 2024. It's dangerous work: Coffee is grown in narco-states, places with civil wars, in countries with repressive dictatorships. Her investigative teams are taking big risks to uncover the state of the industry. Coffee Watch is about taking action, raising consumer awareness through undercover investigations. There are teams working in China, Brazil, Columbia, Uganda, Kenya, and the Chiapas region of Mexico, known for its cartels. Coffee Watch also uses satellite mapping. It produces reports, is in the media, and is active on social media. Coffee Watch also sues the coffee industry for human trafficking and slavery. It has sued Nestle, Starbucks, McDonald's, Dunkin Donuts, and others. Companies should not be allowed to get away with this kind of coffee in their supply chains.Etelle believes that consumers would be willing to pay more for coffee that is responsibly grown. And it would cost just a couple cents more per cup to do so. With a cappuccino costing over $3, and specialty coffees at $7... a few cents would assuage a lot of guilt. And if the price goes up, the demand will not. That's been proven. Despite tariffs, everyone still buys their coffee. But fundamentally, people just do not know the truths of coffee production in Brazil, Indonesia, Vietnam, Columbia, Uganda, and Kenya and other countries. Industry is responsible for the lion's share of the abuse, enabled by the producer governments that have abdicated their duty to care for their citizens.The podcast ends up with a discussion of solutions. Are certification programs effective? Etelle makes clear that they are only partially effective. Most are not delivering real sustainability. Organic is great in that it eliminates pesticides, but does nothing to stem deforestation, to assure women's rights, and eliminate child labor. Most consumers assume that organic and fair trade coffees are ethical and sustainable, but for the most part, they are not. No certifications require producers to pay living-income wages to coffee farmers.So what should our listens do? Etelle encourages listeners to dedicate an hour to figuring out good ethical coffee that are available locally, and that reflect your values. Find it, a good ethical and sustainable coffee. Then buy it. Then spread the word to our...
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    33 mins
  • Stuart Jenkins - Great Runners Are Faster Wearing Shoes Made With Recycled Foam
    Jun 22 2026

    Stuart Jenkins is the founder and chief executive officer of Blumaka, a company that manufactures insoles and shoes for high performance athletes. As a marathon competitor, Stuart was frustrated not to be able to access high performance running shoes, so he designed and now manufacturers and sells his own line. Blumaka also sells its insole technology to Fleks shoes, one of Oprah's top product picks.

    The podcast begins with Stuart's story. A farm boy from Nebraska, he won major marathons, finished in the Boston Marathon seven times, and was an Olympic trial runner. All told, he has run nearly 90,000 miles in his life so far, equivalent to circling the globe more than three times. He had first-hand experience with worn out insoles that lost their cushion. The insoles that come with top brand shoes, he states, fail in 30 miles or less. Blumaka guarantees its insoles for 1,000 miles.

    Ted and Stuart discuss the benefits of running.. lots of time to think and reflect. Running competitively, Stuart reflects, is all about effort. If you work hard, you can be at the front of the pack. The old joke is that the hardest part of running is pulling on your shorts! Running stimulates creativity and thought; you can process information better when not distracted. Stuart stated that he can get more work done on a 30-minute run that being in the office for 4 - 5 hours.

    As a young runner, he was given shoes by local race sponsors for winning his division. But they did not satisfy him so he took out his mom's butcher's knife and cut away at foam for more flex and better cushion. He punched holes in shoes if they were too hot. At age 17, and after modifying lots of shoes he thought, "I can make them better."

    The conversation shifts to foam. Blumaka uses leftover foam from manufacturing—soles that would otherwise be buried or burned. Foam is plastic, Stuart explains, the worst kind of plastic. Imagine plastic blown with gas. Once the air is blown into the foam, like a scrambled egg, it cannot be separated and recycled. Stuart buys waste foam from shoe manufacturing and found a way to reconfigure it, granulating it to maintain its cushioning properties.

    Blumaka's high performance products are popular. There are now 20 NFL teams buying from Blumaka, plus over 1,000 professional athletes. The non-slip insoles help runners run faster as their feet are not sliding inside shoes. They help golfers hit balls farther. Stuart is clear that his products are being bought not because they are sustainable... but for performance. His company's mantra is to sell a product that is sustainable, but it also has to look as good or better, last as long or longer, and cost the same or less.

    Blumaka built, owns, and operates a factory in Southern China where it is manufacturing without the cocktail of chemicals used by the major brands and their suppliers... and using a fraction of the water. Now Blumaka produces a line of products, from insoles and running shoes to pickleball shoes, golf shoes, and through its sister brand -- Fleks-- Blumaka sells sandals, flip-flops, and slides. EcoMotion readers are welcome to use the code "ECOL20" at the Blumaka or Fleks website for a 20% discount to buy "the most sustainable souls on the planet."

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    33 mins
  • Bryan Hannegan -- U.S. Utility Runs on 100% Renewable Power
    Jun 15 2026

    Bryan Hannegan is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Holy Cross Energy (HCE), an electric cooperative in the mountains of Colorado. He appeared on the podcast in 2021 talking about how to create the utility of the future. Now he reports on results and the remarkable accomplishment that HCE operated with 100% renewable power in the month of March 2026.

    The conversation begins by digging into the 100% clean energy accomplishment, that Bryan describes as an intermediate step toward the goal for delivering clean energy every hour of every day by 2030. That's HCE's goal and it is an ambitious goal. What happened in March is that HCE was able to procure an equal amount of renewable energy to meet the amount demanded by HCE's 60,000 delivery points. The supply included projects under contracts as well as power from wholesale partners. Fully 60% of that power was time matched... generated in the hour that it was consumed.

    Bryan described HCE's accomplishment in March like hiking a mountain and reaching a flat spot on the trail up to the summit... there's still a steep vertical face up to the summit. A number of factors made the March milestone possible: HCE is a winter-peaking utility, serving two of Colorado's premier ski resorts and their surrounding communities. Spring is a time of rest... when demand hits an ebb of about 100 MW versus HCE's 300 MW winter peak. March was very sunny and strong winds were constant. Fully 60% of the power delivered was from projects directly contracted by HCE... they serve HCE directly, the transmission in HCE's name. "Those are about as clean a shot as one can get," noted Bryan. The other 40% are bundled market purchases in which HCE buys energy and their renewable energy certificates.

    The conversation shifts to utility resource planning and to the concept of stacking renewable resources, and the need to do so given the inherent variability of renewables like wind and solar. Diversity is key, noted Bryan. HCE is pleased to get power from different locations... in the mountains and in the eastern plains of Colorado. This resource diversity enables HCE to have something going at all times.

    Bryan explains that HCE is "orchestrator of all these different supplies"... while orchestrating all 60,000 meters, influencing members on how and when they use power. And one of his key goals is encouraging customers to use more power when the sun is shining and the wind is blowing. There are many hours when HCE has excess solar and wind. HCE's goals are to store excess renewable power and to sync consumer demand with renewable resources.

    Ted brings up the notion that Bryan presented in 2021, that utilities such as HCE will coordinate networked microgrids. Bryan this time took it a step further, suggesting that every home and building will likely be a microgrid of its own some day due to risks of wildfire, cybersecurity, and aging infrastructure. Everyone will need a Plan B, to be intentional about resilience due to climate variability and risks to normal utility grid operations. Bryan and his team are working to create regional resources, so that if need be, HCE can operate in pieces rather than as a whole.

    HCE now has 30 MW customer-owned solar the vast majority of which is residential, thanks in part to Colorado's full retail price net energy metering. To this favorable policy, HCE has added incentives for batteries, and now about half of all new solar is paired with batteries, storage devices that HCE can draw upon making capacity payments to member-owner instead of making capacity payments for resource adequacy in the power markets. HCE is currently paying about $10/kW month for consumers to be partners in this pursuit.

    HCE offers a number of innovative programs: The PuRE program allows customers that want 100% clean power now. They pay a very small premium for that; their investments accelerate the the pace for all HCE customers. The Peak Time Payback.... for all customers... pay several multiples of what they pay HCE, to not use electricity. HCE just rolled out Time of Use rates for homeowners, sending a signal about the real system costs of using electricity in our homes and businesses all at once.

    Creating the utility of the future... Ted asks what's next? Bryan and his team are focused on trimming power delivery costs, optimizing the power system, leaning in on operating a more flexible and resilient electricity grid. HCE needs to continue to get ready for the next challenges... dealing with cybersecurity, aging equipment. HCE needs to be nimble and flexible while staying true to its core mission of providing reliable and affordable power. Bryan envisions a world where every home, building, and vehicle is producing as well as consuming electricity. HCE will manage that every hour and every day.

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    34 mins
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