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Fire & Flavor

Fire & Flavor

By: Matt Dahl
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A podcast that explores the flavor behind the heat. Meet small-batch hot sauce makers, discover their backstories, and hear their top pairings. 🔥🌶Matt Dahl Art Cooking Food & Wine
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  • 205 - High River Sauces
    Feb 28 2026

    🔥 From being featured on Hot Ones to running some of the biggest hot sauce expos in the country, Steve from High River Sauces joins Fire & Flavor for a deep dive into heat, flavor, and the sauce industry.


    We talk about building a brand that lands on Hot Ones, hosting major expos across NYC, Tennessee, Illinois, and Oregon, and what it really takes to stand out in the world of spice. Steve also breaks down his YouTube competition series Hot Sauce Havoc, a game show-style battle where makers go head-to-head in a format inspired by Iron Chef.


    But I didn’t just choose the lineup.


    I rolled dice to decide which sauces I had to eat.


    No safety picks. No backing out. Whatever the dice landed on, I had to try it.


    From bold tropical flavor to full-blown Pepper X intensity, this one escalates fast.


    🌶 Sauces Featured:
    • Pepper X Taco Sauce
    • Psych Sauce
    • Tears of the Sun
    • Peppers Up
    • Thunder Juice
    • Cheeba Gold


    Let me know in the comments — which sauce would you risk rolling for?


    IG 📸: highriversauces

    Web 🌐: https://highriversauces.com

    YT 🎥: Hot Sauce Havoc


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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • 204 - Ant Sauce
    Feb 20 2026

    In this episode of Fire & Flavor, we sit down with the team behind Ant Sauce to talk about how this bold idea became a real brand. From sourcing edible ants and selecting the right peppers to building a focused lineup with three heat levels, this conversation dives deep into the craft behind one of the most unique sauces in the game.


    And yes… we taste the Extreme Heat version.


    We break down the flavor, the burn, the balance, and what makes this more than just a shock factor sauce. Whether you’re a hardcore chilihead or just curious about food that pushes boundaries, this one is a wild ride.


    🌶 Featured Sauce: Ant Sauce – Extreme Heat

    🐜 Real ants. Real peppers. Real fire.


    IG 📸: antsauceco

    Web 🌐: https://antsauce.com

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    50 mins
  • 203 - High Desert Sauce Co.
    Feb 13 2026

    In this episode of Fire & Flavor, we sit down with High Desert Sauce Co to talk about how a small kitchen experiment turned into a bold, flavor-driven craft hot sauce brand. We dig into their journey from early test batches to full production, what it really takes to build a sauce company from scratch, and why they focus on balance instead of chasing extreme heat.


    We also taste through four of their sauces, starting with Garlic Cilantro Jalapeño and Fire Roasted Green before stepping into Haba-Racha and the bold Tikk-HOT Masala. We break down flavor, heat curves, versatility, and the creative thinking behind each bottle.


    If you’re into craft hot sauce, small batch food brands, or the real story behind building something from the ground up, this one’s for you.


    IG 📸: highdesertsauceco

    Web 🌐: https://hdsauceco.com

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    1 hr and 7 mins
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