Episodes

  • The AI Trade, the Fed and the Next Phase of the Bull Market | Warren Pies
    Jul 2 2026

    Warren Pies of 3Fourteen Research joins Excess Returns to break down the AI bull market, the macro risks investors should watch, and why the data still supports continued strength in semiconductors and equities. We discuss GPU demand, token usage, open source AI, Fed policy, housing weakness, oil, earnings growth, market valuations and the biggest risks to the current cycle.

    Warren Pies on X
    https://x.com/WarrenPies

    3Fourteen Research
    https://www.3fourteenresearch.com/

    Caliban
    https://www.3fourteenresearch.com/caliban

    Main topics covered

    • Which bearish AI arguments actually matter for investors

    • Why regulatory risk may be the biggest long-term AI concern

    • How data center spending is crowding out housing investment

    • Why the Fed may struggle to cool AI-driven investment without hurting the labor market

    • What GPU availability says about real-time AI compute demand

    • Why open source AI is not yet replacing frontier models

    • How token pricing and OpenRouter data help measure AI usage

    • Why semiconductor stocks may still be in the middle of a major cycle

    • How semis are being valued differently than traditional cyclicals

    • Why Fed policy, earnings growth and market multiples are key to the second half of 2026

    • What oil positioning and refined product inventories say about macro risk

    • Why 3Fourteen remains constructive on equities despite rising overheating risk

    Timestamps

    00:00 Intro
    01:04 Which bearish AI arguments have teeth?
    04:00 Why AI regulation is the biggest long-term risk
    07:03 Technology spending versus housing investment
    11:03 How AI CapEx is showing up in inflation data
    13:04 Why the labor market is more fragile than headline jobs data suggests
    16:24 Why GPU availability is a cleaner signal than CapEx announcements
    21:00 What token pricing and OpenRouter data reveal about AI demand
    27:36 How 3Fourteen benchmarks frontier models against open source AI
    30:00 Why the semiconductor selloff looked like a buyable dip
    34:02 Are semiconductors still cyclical businesses?
    38:08 Why Fed tightening could be the thing that ends the bull market
    42:15 What the oil shock means now
    45:47 Refined product inventories, crack spreads and energy stocks
    47:18 Are earnings estimates becoming too optimistic?
    50:49 Why the debasement regime still supports equities
    54:05 Where to find Warren Pies and 3Fourteen Research

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    56 mins
  • He Wrote the Book on Why Moats Fail | Ritavan on What Actually Compounds Instead
    Jul 1 2026

    Ritavan joins Excess Returns to explain The System Gambit, a new framework for understanding competitive advantage, business strategy, AI disruption and long-term compounding. We discuss why traditional moat checklists can miss the real source of value, how companies can build systems competitors cannot copy, and what investors should look for when AI changes the game.

    The System Gambit
    https://amzn.to/4b0J32I

    Main topics covered

    • Why the traditional moat checklist can fail investors

    • The three requirements for a true System Gambit

    • How investors can evaluate business strategy from the outside

    • Why code is not always the moat in the age of AI

    • What history can teach investors about asymmetry and leverage

    • Why AI adoption is not the same as AI value creation

    • The difference between moving fast and understanding the game

    • Lessons from Nokia, ASML, Amazon and Walmart

    • How intangible investment and J curves can hide long-term value

    • Why the best companies build compounding systems competitors cannot copy

    • How investors can identify companies changing the game rather than optimizing the old one

    Timestamps

    00:00 Opening preview and introduction

    04:00 The three ingredients of a System Gambit

    08:49 Why code is not the moat in AI software

    13:00 Skanderbeg and changing the rules of the game

    17:00 Good moats, good narratives and asymmetric advantage

    22:31 Microscope vs telescope as a lesson for AI

    28:35 AI winners, losers and high dispersion markets

    32:08 Signal quality, bottlenecks and why AI adoption is not enough

    36:00 Nokia, agility and the failure to build a causal model

    40:15 Why understanding the game beats speed

    44:00 Intangible investment, the J curve and ASML's hidden edge

    49:54 The contrarian AI thesis behind The System Gambit

    54:00 How to recognize a real System Gambit

    58:27 Amazon, Walmart and multi-paradigm compounding

    1:03:00 Prime, FBA and platform leverage

    1:07:00 Walmart's answer to Amazon

    1:11:06 Closing thoughts and where to find Ritavan

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • The 100 Year Thinkers: Chris Mayer on SpaceX, AI Reckoning, and Why Early Is Overrated
    Jun 27 2026

    On this episode of the 100 Year Thinkers, Chris Mayer and Matt Zeigler discuss long-term investing, 100-baggers, AI stocks, SpaceX valuation, founder-led companies, and why the best investments often come with brutal drawdowns. We also cover his new book The Investor's Odyssey, the danger of letting labels like AI do too much work, how to think about TAM and capital allocation, and why patience may be the biggest edge for investors trying to own great businesses for decades.

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    The Investor's Odyssey: Resisting the Sirens and Playing the Long Game⁠

    https://amzn.to/44BMXeJ⁠

    Main topics covered

    • Why SpaceX, AI and trillion-dollar IPOs are testing investor discipline

    • How Chris Mayer thinks about valuation after watching Google become a huge winner

    • Why great businesses can still be terrible investments at the wrong price

    • The danger of letting labels like AI, quality and TAM replace real analysis

    • Why many AI features may not create real customer value

    • What the dot-com bubble can teach investors about AI adoption and shakeouts

    • Why investors do not need to be early if a company is truly exceptional

    • How to separate AI anecdotes from real financial impact

    • Why capital allocation and return on invested capital matter more as companies scale

    • How to evaluate founder control, governance, incentives and trust

    • Why the best long-term stocks can still fall 50 percent or more along the way

    • What rational exuberance might look like for long-term investors

    Timestamps

    00:00 Intro: Chris Mayer on AI, SpaceX and long-term investing

    04:00 SpaceX valuation vs Google and the risk of paying too much

    08:01 Why labels like AI and quality can do too much work

    12:05 The AI pause, the dot-com analogy and where real value may emerge

    16:06 Why investors do not need to be early when a business is real

    21:00 Becoming a great company versus already being mature

    25:10 Thinking about TAM, market share and realistic growth expectations

    29:43 Corporate governance, free float and shareholder rights

    34:27 How to judge founder trust, incentives and compensation

    38:57 Employee ownership, culture and building enduring companies

    43:02 Investor frustration in a lopsided AI-driven market

    47:02 Why even a perfect stock picker would face brutal drawdowns

    52:17 The rise of trillion-dollar IPOs and the question of rational exuberance

    56:29 The Investor's Odyssey and playing the long game




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    58 mins
  • We Asked GMO’s Head of Asset Allocation Why This Bubble is Easy — But Investors Will Get it Wrong
    Jun 24 2026

    Ben Inker of GMO joins Excess Returns to break down whether the AI boom is an investment bubble, how it compares to 2000, 2007 and 2021, and why today’s risk may be more about earnings than valuations. We also discuss AI capital spending, market supply from IPOs, GMO’s seven-year asset class forecasts, international stocks, benchmark-free allocation and what private equity investors may be missing.

    7 YEAR ASSET CLASS FORECAST

    https://www.gmo.com/americas/research-library/gmo-7-year-asset-class-forecast-may-2026_gmo7yearassetclassforecast/

    WHAT BARBARIANS LIKE TO TAKE PRIVATE

    https://www.gmo.com/americas/research-library/part-1-what-barbarians-like-to-take-private_gmoquarterlyletter/


    THE CASE FOR LIQUID ALTERNATIVES

    https://www.gmo.com/americas/research-library/the-case-for-liquid-alternatives-in-todays-environment_insights/

    Main topics covered

    • Why GMO sees the AI boom as a bubble investors may be able to navigate

    • The difference between easy bubbles and hard bubbles in portfolio construction

    • Lessons from the internet bubble, the global financial crisis and the 2021 duration bubble

    • Why today’s market may be an earnings bubble, not just a valuation bubble

    • How AI data center spending affects corporate profits before depreciation shows up

    • Why transformational technologies do not always reward the companies building them

    • The risk of circular financing, debt-funded AI spending and increasingly creative deal structures

    • How IPOs, share issuance and market supply can pressure stock returns

    • GMO’s seven-year asset class forecasts and why international stocks look more attractive than U.S. stocks

    • Why private equity portfolios may contain large hidden bets on small, lower-quality companies

    Timestamps

    00:00 AI, earnings bubbles and market supply
    00:58 Why Ben Inker thinks the AI bubble may be easier to navigate
    02:43 What makes a bubble easy or hard for investors
    08:12 Comparing risk and return in 2000, 2007, 2021 and today
    14:42 Why optimizers and real clients see risk differently
    17:02 What GMO learned from managing through past bubbles
    19:08 How today compares to the 2000 internet bubble
    20:00 Why this may be an earnings bubble
    23:34 Semiconductors, memory makers and the capital cycle
    25:00 How AI CapEx compares to railroads, electricity and fiber optics
    29:33 Debt, circular financing and strange AI deals
    34:32 Why massive stock issuance could challenge the market
    40:00 How GMO builds seven-year asset class return forecasts
    41:40 Why interest rates change fair value for stocks and bonds
    45:32 Why international, value and small-cap stocks look more attractive
    49:06 The case for a benchmark-free portfolio
    55:21 What 700 leveraged buyouts reveal about private equity
    01:02:00 How public portfolios can offset private equity risks
    01:03:37 Why investors need to understand what they are paid for
    01:08:27 Closing thoughts


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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Finding Quality Growth in Emerging Markets with Ian Smith
    Jun 22 2026

    Ian Smith, portfolio manager at William Blair, joins Excess Returns to break down emerging markets, global diversification, and why EM may offer a very different opportunity set than US stocks. We discuss AI capex, the role of Korea, Taiwan, China and India, the impact of the dollar, quality investing, valuation, and how active investors can think about opportunity in a world shaped by AI disruption and geopolitical change.

    William Blair Investment Management
    https://im.williamblair.com/

    The Problem With Quality
    https://im.williamblair.com/insights/articles/the-problem-with-quality

    Topics covered:

    • Why emerging markets are not one single trade

    • How AI capex is reshaping EM indexes and performance

    • Why Korea, Taiwan and China are central to the AI supply chain

    • The role of the US dollar in emerging market returns

    • Why EM index concentration is higher than many investors realize

    • What past innovation cycles can teach us about the AI buildout

    • How AI is changing the definition of quality investing

    • Why China’s manufacturing strength creates both opportunity and risk

    • The long-term case for India despite high valuations

    • How William Blair evaluates quality, trajectory and underappreciation

    • Why valuation in emerging markets requires more than simple multiples

    • The one investing lesson Ian Smith would teach the average investor

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    04:10 Why emerging markets are not one market

    08:37 Why EM is underrepresented in global indexes

    13:16 How the dollar impacts emerging market returns

    18:37 AI capex, picks and shovels, and EM supply chains

    24:17 How William Blair is using AI in the investment process

    28:30 Why quality and growth have decoupled in emerging markets

    33:19 Why AI disruption creates opportunity for active managers

    37:30 China’s overcapacity, competition and global manufacturing edge

    42:00 India’s long-term growth drivers and valuation challenge

    47:00 Finding underappreciated quality in EM stocks

    52:01 Deglobalization, China and the future of global trade

    56:09 The one lesson Ian Smith would teach investors

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    58 mins
  • The $2 Trillion Question | Tobias Carlisle on SpaceX, the AI Buildout, and the Rotation No One Sees
    Jun 20 2026

    Tobias Carlisle joins Excess Returns to discuss why today’s market may be setting up a major opportunity in value stocks, small caps and micro caps. We cover stretched market valuations, AI capex, SpaceX and other massive IPOs, the risk of speculative growth assumptions, and how Tobias builds systematic deep value portfolios in ZIG and DEEP.

    Tobias Carlisle on X
    https://x.com/Greenbackd

    Acquirers Funds
    https://acquirersfunds.com/

    Topics covered:

    • Why elevated market valuations point to lower forward returns, not necessarily an immediate exit from stocks

    • The case for small value, micro-cap value and mid-cap value after a long large-cap growth cycle

    • Why equal-weight indexes and small caps may be signaling a market leadership shift

    • Whether AI capex will create lasting profits or mostly benefit consumers

    • The parallels and differences between AI, the dot-com boom, railroads and fiber optic buildouts

    • How AI spending is being financed and why the stock market may be demanding more compute investment

    • What the SpaceX IPO, OpenAI and Anthropic could mean for market supply and investor psychology

    • Why base rates are being challenged by the growth of major technology platforms

    • How disruption can create value traps and why traditional valuation metrics can struggle in disrupted industries

    • The energy demand implications of AI data centers and why nuclear and natural gas could matter

    • How Tobias combines valuation, quality, financial statements and portfolio construction in ZIG and DEEP

    • Why quarterly rebalancing may be a practical balance between timing luck, momentum and trading costs

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Why AI value may accrue to consumers
    04:00 What extreme market valuations say about future returns
    08:22 Small caps, equal weight and the Mag Seven reversal
    14:15 AI capex and lessons from past technology booms
    19:47 Who gets the profits from AI?
    23:00 Cash flow, debt and the AI spending race
    28:06 SpaceX, giant IPOs and market supply
    31:00 OpenAI, Anthropic and Mauboussin’s base rates
    35:17 Is buying the S&P 500 more speculative than investors realize?
    36:57 Value investing during disruptive technology cycles
    41:07 War, energy prices and the broadening trade
    45:32 Semiconductor valuations and aggressive growth assumptions
    47:30 How Tobias builds the ZIG and DEEP portfolios
    54:17 ETF rebalancing, timing luck and systematic value investing



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    58 mins
  • The Trillion Dollar Gap | Aswath Damodaran on SpaceX, AI and the Big Market Delusion
    Jun 19 2026

    Professor Aswath Damodaran joins Kai Wu on The Intangible Economy to break down how to value SpaceX, AI companies, intangible assets, and the future of value investing.

    We discuss why big markets do not automatically create big value, how AI CapEx is changing the character of major technology companies, and why the best investment stories still have to connect to the numbers.

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    Topics covered:

    • Valuing SpaceX after its IPO and why price matters even for great companies

    • How Starlink, space launch, and xAI fit into SpaceX’s valuation story

    • Why total addressable market can mislead investors in AI and other disruptive industries

    • The problem with AI unit economics, data centers, power, water, and reinvestment needs

    • Why growth can destroy value when margins and returns on capital are weak

    • How intangible assets, R&D, future growth, and narratives should show up in valuation

    • The Big Market Delusion and how overconfidence drives boom and bust cycles

    • Why AI CapEx is different from the dot-com boom and could create broader risks

    • How AI is changing the character of the Magnificent Seven and semiconductor companies

    • Why value investing became rigid, ritualistic, and righteous, and how it can evolve

    Timestamps:

    00:00 Why great companies can still be bad investments

    01:03 Introducing Aswath Damodaran and The Intangible Economy

    01:49 SpaceX IPO, Starlink, xAI, and the challenge of valuing uncertainty

    05:31 Why Starlink became the core of SpaceX’s current revenue

    10:31 How Damodaran valued SpaceX across launch, connectivity, and AI

    14:07 Why AI’s huge market may still have difficult unit economics

    17:10 The tension between SpaceX competing in AI and renting data centers to competitors

    20:00 Why valuation should use distributions instead of false precision

    22:39 How stories and numbers work together in valuation

    26:45 Why investors confuse promises, potential, and businesses

    30:49 The Big Market Delusion and overconfidence in AI investing

    33:02 Why the AI CapEx boom is different from the dot-com bubble

    35:17 How AI infrastructure is changing the Magnificent Seven

    38:36 Nvidia, Micron, semiconductors, and the risk of peak cycle earnings

    41:00 Why the biggest AI market stories could be scary for society

    43:37 AI disruption, labor markets, and the speed of technological change

    46:30 Measuring which jobs and companies are most exposed to AI automation

    49:00 Why AI cost structure may look more like Spotify than software

    51:13 The unresolved business model questions for LLMs and AI agents

    52:29 Why traditional value investing lost its edge

    56:03 Passive investing, book value, and the blame game in value investing

    58:13 Why rigid value investing is vulnerable to AI disruption

    01:00:58 How value investing can adapt to intangible assets and uncertainty

    01:02:21 Why any company can be a good investment at the right price

    01:04:57 Why investing mistakes and track records are harder to judge than they look


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    1 hr and 9 mins
  • Andy Constan on the SpaceX IPO, AI CapEx, and the End of the Buyback Tailwind
    Jun 16 2026

    In the third episode of First Principles with Andy Constan, Andy breaks down the changing structure of markets as the IPO window reopens, AI CapEx accelerates, and corporate buybacks shift toward new equity supply. We discuss what the SpaceX IPO says about capital markets, whether AI spending can create disinflationary growth, why the consumer is still holding up, and what could challenge the current market bubble.

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    Topics covered:

    • Why IPOs are central to the purpose of public markets

    • How Andy evaluates whether the SpaceX IPO worked

    • Why issuers may want IPOs to trade higher after pricing

    • The shift from stock buybacks to new equity issuance

    • Why AI CapEx is changing the supply and demand for shares

    • How hyperscaler spending is being funded through cash, bonds, and stock

    • The economic test for whether AI investment pays off

    • Disinflationary productivity growth versus labor displacement

    • Why the current economy is still supported by consumption

    • The role of wealth effects and consumer dissaving

    • Why falling oil prices may not eliminate inflation pressure

    • What Andy is watching in Fed policy, tariffs, AI CapEx, and equity issuance

    • How Kevin Warsh could approach rates, QT, and the Fed balance sheet

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro and key themes
    04:18 How Andy reads the SpaceX IPO
    08:27 Why underwriters and regulators want IPOs to work
    13:00 Why issuers may want IPOs to trade higher
    17:05 From stock buybacks to new equity supply
    21:06 The 600 to 700 billion dollar shift in share supply
    26:42 The economic test for AI tokens
    32:09 Can AI create disinflationary productivity growth?
    38:10 Is AI CapEx holding up the economy?
    41:00 Wealth effects, dissaving, and the consumer
    45:52 Oil prices, war, and inflation
    49:07 Jalen Brunson, incentives, and long-term value
    52:00 Fed policy, tariffs, and what matters this summer
    55:36 Kevin Warsh, QT, and the Fed balance sheet
    58:42 Closing thoughts

    No information on this podcast should be construed as investment advice. Securities discussed in the podcast may be holdings of the firms of the hosts or their clients.

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