In this final conversation, Jo Hobbis and Christie Penner Worden lean into the question that quietly sits underneath so many parenting and kids ministry fears: what happens when we miss it?

Through stories of getting “lost” on a real-life walk, unexpected detours, and the tension of letting children lead, this episode gently unpacks what it means to trust God in the middle of uncertainty. You’ll feel the honesty, the humour, and at times the discomfort of realising how tightly we can hold onto “getting it right” in conversations with children.

Together they explore what it looks like to loosen our grip on outcomes, stay curious instead of controlling, and create space for children to grow, question, and change their minds. You’ll be encouraged to see identity conversations not as something to win or finish, but something to walk through—often imperfectly, but never alone.

This conversation will leave you feeling:

• reassured that mistakes don’t disqualify you as a parent or leader
• challenged to choose humility over control
• hopeful that “do-overs” are not just possible, but part of how God works with us
• and encouraged that your child’s journey with identity can include safety, curiosity, and trust

At its heart, this episode is a reminder that both adults and children are still becoming—and that God is faithful in the middle of every twist, turn, and detour along the way.

This is the final part of a deep dive into The Me I Was Made To Be: Helping Christian Parents Navigate The Identity Conversation by Christie Penner Worden.

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