Episode 4 of No Neutral: Veterans in Motion brings a unique perspective — two leaders at different stages of service, connected through competition, purpose, and community.

Rachel, currently serving in the Army while attending medical school, and Jose, a retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, share their journeys from military service into the fast-growing world of pickleball. From elite performance and high-pressure careers to finding balance through sport, both embody what it means to stay in motion after — and during — service.

This episode dives into:

• Transitioning identity from military to personal mission
• The role of sport in mental health and stress management
• How competition builds connection across generations
• Why pickleball is becoming one of the most accessible “front door” environments for veterans

From medical school and active duty to coaching, recovery, and high-level competition — this conversation shows how purpose doesn’t end with service. It evolves.

Because at OVN — there is No Neutral.

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