Episodes

  • Shame and the Hidden Narrative: Pt. 3 - Reclaiming What Shame Buried w/ Daniel Herron

    Shame and the Hidden Narrative: Pt. 3 - Reclaiming What Shame Buried w/ Daniel Herron
    May 14 2026
    Many people grow up believing their emotions, sensitivity, curiosity, or instincts are “too much.”

    In this episode, Daniel and Patria explore what it looks like to reclaim the very parts of ourselves that shame taught us to bury. Daniel shares the powerful shift from seeing himself as destructive to understanding himself as dangerous — not harmful, but no longer easily controlled by systems built on fear and conformity.

    Together, they unpack attachment, authenticity, emotional regulation, and why systems often react strongly to people who threaten the status quo simply by being fully themselves. This conversation offers a hopeful reframe for listeners who’ve spent years trying to shrink themselves to stay connected: maybe the traits you learned to fear are actually connected to your deepest gifts.

    In This Episode
    • The difference between “wild” and “destructive”
    • Attachment vs. authenticity
    • Emotional regulation and dysregulation
    • Why systems label people as “too much”
    • Reclaiming instinct, emotion, and intuition
    • The connection between shame and control
    Connect With Daniel:
    https://www.musathewild.com/


    Resources & Announcements

    Coming Home to Yourself — June Virtual Workshop

    Patria is hosting a live virtual workshop, Coming Home to Yourself: A Journey Into Secure Belonging, on June 13, 2026. This experience is designed to help participants explore survival patterns, grounded identity, and secure connection with themselves and others.

    Register here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/coming-home-to-yourself-a-journey-into-secure-belonging-registration-1986430449949

    To learn more about Courageous Pathways and the work being done to support healing, growth, and transformation through nonprofit care and community support: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/courageous-pathways

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    34 mins
  • Shame and the Hidden Narrative: Pt. 2 - The Stories That Keep Shame Alive w/ Daniel Herron (Re-Release)

    Shame and the Hidden Narrative: Pt. 2 - The Stories That Keep Shame Alive w/ Daniel Herron (Re-Release)
    May 7 2026
    Shame rarely survives alone. In this episode, Daniel and Patria explore the narratives, secrecy, and systems that protect shame from ever being questioned. They unpack how family stories, cultural expectations, and relational patterns reinforce identities that were formed long ago — often without our awareness.

    Daniel shares the painful realization that decades later, his “wild child” narrative was still being passed down through his extended family. Together, they discuss how narratives become embedded in systems, how secrecy develops as a survival strategy, and why so many people organize their lives around avoiding exposure, rejection, or disconnection.

    This conversation also begins turning toward healing: what happens when compassion, curiosity, and safe relationships begin disrupting the old story? What if the narrative you inherited was never the full truth about who you are?

    In This Episode
    • How shame narratives become generational
    • Secrecy as a survival strategy
    • Why systems resist change
    • The relationship between shame and belonging
    • Identity fragmentation and moral injury
    • The first steps toward challenging old narratives
    Connect With Daniel:
    https://www.musathewild.com/


    Resources & Announcements

    Coming Home to Yourself — June Virtual Workshop

    Patria is hosting a live virtual workshop, Coming Home to Yourself: A Journey Into Secure Belonging, on June 13, 2026. This experience is designed to help participants explore survival patterns, grounded identity, and secure connection with themselves and others.

    Register here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/coming-home-to-yourself-a-journey-into-secure-belonging-registration-1986430449949

    To learn more about Courageous Pathways and the work being done to support healing, growth, and transformation through nonprofit care and community support: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/courageous-pathways

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

    Connect With Patria
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    The Broken & Beautiful Website

    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    30 mins
  • Shame and the Hidden Narrative: Pt. 1 - When Shame Becomes Identity w/ Daniel Herron (Re-Release)

    Shame and the Hidden Narrative: Pt. 1 - When Shame Becomes Identity w/ Daniel Herron (Re-Release)
    May 7 2026
    In this opening conversation, Daniel Herron and Patria explore the hidden narratives that shape how we see ourselves, others, and even God. Together, they unpack the difference between guilt and shame, why shame attaches itself to identity, and how survival strategies formed in childhood can quietly follow us into adulthood.

    Daniel shares personal stories of growing up labeled as “wild,” while Patria reflects on the loss of identity that can happen inside systems that reward compliance over authenticity. This episode traces the roots of shame, emotional suppression, religious conditioning, and belonging, while offering a compassionate lens for understanding why so many people feel disconnected from themselves.

    If you’ve ever felt like something was fundamentally wrong with you, this conversation invites a gentler possibility: maybe your survival strategies were never the problem.In This Episode
    • The difference between guilt and shame
    • Why shame becomes attached to identity
    • Childhood survival strategies and emotional suppression
    • The impact of religious and family systems
    • What happens when authenticity threatens belonging
    • Why shame often functions as protection
    Connect With Daniel:
    https://www.musathewild.com/

    Resources & Announcements

    Coming Home to Yourself — June Virtual Workshop

    Patria is hosting a live virtual workshop, Coming Home to Yourself: A Journey Into Secure Belonging, on June 13, 2026. This experience is designed to help participants explore survival patterns, grounded identity, and secure connection with themselves and others.

    Register here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/coming-home-to-yourself-a-journey-into-secure-belonging-registration-1986430449949

    To learn more about Courageous Pathways and the work being done to support healing, growth, and transformation through nonprofit care and community support: https://www.thebrokenandbeautiful.com/courageous-pathways

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

    Connect With Patria
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    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    1 hr and 2 mins
  • When Your Nervous System Is Running Your Relationships with Laurie Proctor

    When Your Nervous System Is Running Your Relationships with Laurie Proctor
    Mar 27 2026
    Why do the same patterns keep showing up in your relationships—no matter how self-aware you are? In this episode, we unpack how dysregulation quietly shapes the way we connect, react, withdraw, and pursue. What looks like “overreacting,” shutting down, or conflict spirals is often your nervous system trying to protect you—not sabotage you. We talk about:
    • How emotional triggers are formed (and why they feel so fast and overwhelming)
    • The difference between reaction and response
    • Why awareness alone doesn’t break the cycle
    • What it actually takes to interrupt patterns in real time
    • How regulation changes the way we experience love, conflict, and connection
    This conversation isn’t about fixing yourself.
    It’s about understanding what’s been running underneath—and learning how to work with it instead of against it.

    About the Guest:
    Laurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of SOWThat (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.

    Learn more about her work at sowthat.com.


    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

    Connect With Patria
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    The Broken & Beautiful Website

    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    38 mins
  • The Healing Power of Creativity: Reclaiming Imagination After Trauma with Sher Nyquist

    The Healing Power of Creativity: Reclaiming Imagination After Trauma with Sher Nyquist
    Mar 19 2026
    What if healing didn’t have to be forced… or figured out… or even put into words?

    In this episode of Echoes and Edges, Patria sits down with trauma-informed coach and Processing Trauma Out Loud host, Sher Nyquist, to explore how creativity—yes, even the simplest forms—can gently unlock healing. This conversation reframes art, imagination, and play as powerful tools for processing trauma, regulating the nervous system, and reconnecting with parts of ourselves that may have been silenced by shame, judgment, or survival. No artistic skill required—just curiosity.

    What You’ll Hear in This Episode
    • Why healing isn’t something you “fix”—it’s something you approach slowly
    • How creativity helps access what words can’t reach
    • The surprising link between trauma responses and creativity
    • Why you don’t have to be “an artist” to benefit from creative expression
    • How simple practices (like stick figures or color swirling) can unlock deeper memory and emotion
    • The role of the nervous system—and how art can help regulate it
    • How shame shuts down creativity (and how to gently move toward it instead)
    • Why imagination is one of the most accessible and powerful healing tools we have
    • The concept of “lavish tenderness” and why simplicity matters in healing
    Key Takeaways
    • Creativity is not about performance—it’s about expression
    • Trauma often compresses our sense of self; creativity helps expand it
    • Healing happens in slowness, safety, and small, consistent moments
    • Imagination is free, always available, and neurologically impactful
    • You can “turn toward” difficult emotions instead of pushing them away
    • Play, wonder, and curiosity are not extras—they are essential to healing
    A Gentle Practice

    Take a moment and notice:
    • What stayed with you from this conversation?
    • If that feeling had a color, what would it be?
    • Where do you sense it in your body?
    No need to analyze. No need to fix.

    Just notice.

    About Our Guest
    Sher Nyquist Sher Nyquist is a trauma-informed story coach who integrates Narrative-Focused Trauma Care, somatic awareness, and simple creative practices to help people reconnect with their stories and themselves. She specializes in creating safe, compassionate spaces where healing unfolds through curiosity, imagination, and gentle exploration.

    🎙 Host of: Processing Trauma Out Loud
    • One-on-one story coaching
    • Integration of creative practices + somatic awareness
    • EFT tapping (for those interested)
    📧 Email: shernyquist@gmail.com

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

    Connect With Patria
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    The Broken & Beautiful Website

    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    59 mins
  • When Dysregulation Shapes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor

    When Dysregulation Shapes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor
    Mar 12 2026
    In this episode, host Patria Rector continues the conversation with coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, and Enneagram instructor Laurie Proctor about the powerful role our nervous systems and internal parts play in shaping relationships. When we become dysregulated, connection often gives way to survival. Fight, flight, freeze, and collapse are responses that helped us endure difficult moments in our stories—but they were never designed to sustain healthy relationships.

    Patria and Laurie explore how unintegrated parts within us can create rupture in our relationships and how learning to regulate before responding allows love, empathy, and curiosity to lead instead of fear. Through personal stories, Enneagram insights, and reflections from Internal Family Systems work, they discuss how different people experience dysregulation in different ways—from outward reactivity to internal collapse—and how awareness can open the door to greater compassion for ourselves and others.

    The episode also widens the lens beyond individual relationships, exploring how the same patterns of survival and dysregulation can shape communities and even the cultural moment we find ourselves living in.

    In this episode, we explore:
    • How dysregulation leads to rupture in relationships
    • The difference between survival responses and relational connection
    • Why regulation matters before responding in moments of conflict
    • How Enneagram patterns influence our stress responses
    • Internal Family Systems and responding from “Self” rather than reactive parts
    • The role of empathy in restoring connection
    • How personal dysregulation can mirror collective tension in the world around us
    Reflection:
    What happens in your body when you feel threatened, misunderstood, or angry? Do you move toward conflict, withdraw from it, or collapse inward? Learning to notice these responses is often the first step toward responding from a more grounded and compassionate place.

    About the Guest:
    Laurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of SOWThat (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.

    Learn more about her work at sowthat.com.

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

    Connect With Patria
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    The Broken & Beautiful Website

    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    24 mins
  • How Inner Work Changes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor

    How Inner Work Changes the Way We Love with Laurie Proctor
    Mar 5 2026
    In this episode, host Patria Rector sits down with coach, IFS practitioner, and Enneagram instructor Laurie Proctor for a thoughtful conversation about how inner work reshapes the way we experience love.

    Love is often talked about as a feeling, a virtue, or an ideal. But in real life, love is shaped by the stories we carry, the wounds we’ve endured, and the nervous systems we inhabit. When those stories remain unexamined, love often operates through survival patterns—control, withdrawal, reactivity, or collapse. Together, Patria and Laurie explore a different possibility: love that grows from integration.

    Drawing from Internal Family Systems, the Enneagram, and decades of personal and professional experience, they discuss how healing our inner world changes the way we show up in relationships. Instead of trying to perfect ourselves, the invitation is to become more aware, more compassionate toward our own parts, and more grounded in what IFS calls self-energy—the calm, curious, compassionate center within us. This conversation opens a space for listeners to consider how their own history, patterns, and nervous system responses influence the way they give and receive love.

    In this episode, we explore
    • Why love often becomes distorted by survival patterns
    • How trauma and nervous system responses shape relationships
    • The role of Internal Family Systems and “parts” language
    • What self-energy looks like in everyday life
    • Why integration—not perfection—leads to healthier connection
    • How untended pain eventually seeks expression
    A question to reflect on
    When relationships feel tense or unsafe, what response tends to take the lead for you—control, withdrawal, reactivity, or collapse? Sometimes the first step toward healing is simply noticing.

    About the Guest
    Laurie Proctor is a professionally certified coach, Internal Family Systems practitioner, Human Design coach, and certified Enneagram instructor who partners with individuals, teams, and organizations seeking healing and transformation. She is the founder of Sow That (Self Others World), where her work centers on the belief that healing begins within and ripples outward to others and the world. Laurie holds multiple certificates in narrative-focused trauma care from The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology and is passionate about helping people discover the treasures within that can change their lives—and the world.

    Learn more about her work at sowthat.com.

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

    Connect With Patria
    Facebook
    Instagram
    The Broken & Beautiful Website

    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    31 mins
  • The Arc of Integration (Part 2 of 2) with Adam Young

    The Arc of Integration (Part 2 of 2) with Adam Young
    Feb 26 2026
    This is Part 2 of a 2-part conversation with Adam Young — and it goes deeper into the places most of us were taught to avoid.

    In this episode, Patria and Adam turn toward sexuality, shame, anger, kindness, and integration — not as abstract ideas, but as lived, embodied experiences shaped by story, attachment, and the nervous system.

    If Part 1 laid the foundation, Part 2 enters the terrain.🔎

    This Episode Is For You If:
    1. You want to understand your sexual story without shame
    2. You’ve felt violated without being touched and didn’t know why
    3. You struggle with anger, sadness, or shame and don’t know where to start
    4. You want healing that includes the body, not just insight
    5. You’re ready for kindness that tells the truth
    📚 Resources Mentioned
    1. The Wounded Heart by Dan Allender
    2. Allender Center
    3. Adam Young Counseling
    4. The Place We Find Ourselves – Adam Young's Podcast
    5. Make Sense of Your Story – Adam Young's Book
    If this episode stirred something tender, that’s not an accident.
    Stay with it.
    Healing doesn’t rush — it integrates.

    If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, start there.

    And if this conversation mattered to you, share it with someone who needs a safe invitation into their story.

    If this episode resonates with you, follow or subscribe to Echoes and Edges on your favorite podcast platform, leave a five-star review, and share with a friend who might need a gentle invitation to self-understanding.

    Connect With Patria
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    The Broken & Beautiful Website

    Credits:
    Echoes and Edges is Produced and Edited by: Stephen R. Sanders
    Music Promoted by Envato
    Echoes and Edges is a part of VividLivid Podcast Network - Where bruises speak and healing finds its voice.
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    28 mins