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  • Equity Is in the Details: Data That Drives Access
    Feb 2 2026

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    Equity Is in the Details: Data That Drives Access


    Panelists

    • Adam Inder, Head of Education, Pivot Professional Learning
    • Françoise Raoult, Teacher, Coach and EAL Coordinator, Inclusive EAL
    • Heather Millnick, MTSS coordinator, Fairfax County Public schools


    Episode Summary

    In this episode of Data in Education, Jenelle and Jessica are joined by school leaders, coaches, and practitioners to explore how data can be used to advance equity rather than unintentionally reinforce gaps.

    Rather than centering the conversation on scores, labels, or compliance-driven systems, the discussion focuses on how everyday data practices, when designed thoughtfully, can expand access to rigorous, grade-level instruction and better reflect the full picture of student learning.

    The conversation focuses on:

    • How data can unintentionally reinforce inequities when it is reduced to a single number or disconnected from context
    • What kinds of data actually support access to meaningful, grade-level learning for all students
    • How culturally responsive practices show up in day-to-day data use, including qualitative and student-specific information
    • What equitable acceleration looks like through exposure, representation, and opportunity
    • How school and district leaders can support this work by creating space for deeper, more reflective data conversations


    This episode is especially relevant for educators and leaders who want data to feel more supportive, actionable, and human, and who are looking for practical ways to ensure every student has access to high-quality learning experiences.


    Actionable Guidance from Our Panelists

    Our panelists shared concrete ways educators can rethink and use data to drive equity in classrooms and schools.


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    • I can avoid reducing data to a single number.
    • I can look at multiple sources of evidence.
    • I can recognize that all students deserve access to high-quality instruction, not just those who already demonstrate proficiency.


    Françoise Raoult

    • I can identify dominant cultural norms embedded in content, tasks, and expectations.
    • I can be careful about how students are labeled based on data.
    • I can use data to question assumptions rather than confirm them.


    Heather Millnick

    • I can understand when data expects specific background knowledge.
    • I can look at individual skills rather than overall performance.
    • I can create a clear roadmap from one skill to the next.
    • I can identify whether each student’s growth rate is continuing.

    Links to these resources are available wherever you are listening or watching this episode.


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  • Data Literacy Isn’t a Workshop: Why Habits Matter More Than Training
    Jan 26 2026

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    Panelists:
    - Dr. Rajagopal Appavu
    - Jerod Neff
    - Kurtis Hewson

    Episode Summary:
    In this episode of Data in Education, Jenelle and Jessica are joined by researchers, district leaders, and system-level practitioners to explore why data tools often fail when habits are missing, and what it actually takes to build data-literate teams.
    Rather than focusing on new dashboards or one-time professional development, the conversation centers on the daily habits, language, and routines that make data usable, actionable, and human.

    The conversation focuses on:
    - Why data tools break down when habits, clarity, and shared purpose are missing
    - How data literacy shows up (or doesn’t) in everyday team conversations
    - What educators and leaders can do differently tomorrow to turn data into action instead of anxiety

    This episode is especially relevant for educators and leaders who are thinking about how data is used in real classrooms and meetings, and who want data to feel more supportive, actionable, and human rather than overwhelming or compliance-driven.

    Actionable Guidance from Our Panelists:

    Dr. Rajagopal Appavu
    - I can organize the data to gear toward personalized learning.
    - I can identify the difference between structured and unstructured data.
    - I can identify how my actions connect to the data.
    - I can practice the right habits to collect the right data.
    - I can visualize the dashboard with intention.

    Jerod Neff
    - I can understand that I bring my A-game (best intention) before discussing data.
    - I can be aware of the purpose by using simple, shared language.
    - I can clarify meaning through clear rubrics and expectations.
    - I can feel comfortable talking about struggles with student growth.
    - I can move from data talks to data action.
    - I can reshape how teachers feel about data and transform teacher conversations.

    Kurtis Hewson
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    - I can organize the data so teams can respond.
    - I can understand how teams use data to inform planning.
    - I can see strengths in the data and identify what led to them.
    - I can identify gaps and choose one next step.
    - I can ask, “How will you know?” and build systems that support the answer.
    - I can ask, “What do you think you did?” to connect actions to outcomes.

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  • Behavior Is Data, Too: Making It Actionable, Not Punitive
    Jan 19 2026

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    Behavior Is Data Too: Making It Actionable, Not Punitive


    Panelists

    • Nilsa Real-Carleton, School Psychologist, PCA
    • Tom Kaster, Educational Data Consultant, The Datafied Classroom
    • Dr. Christopher Graves, K-8 Principal, Jordan Community School


    Episode Summary

    In this episode of Data in Education, Jenelle and Jessica are joined by school leaders and behavior experts to explore how behavior data can drive real skill-building without becoming punitive or dehumanizing.

    The conversation focuses on:

    • How behavior data is often misused in ways that overlook skill gaps and emotional context
    • How to shift behavior conversations from punishment to instruction and support
    • What educators can actually do differently to make behavior progress visible, consistent, and sustainable

    This episode is especially relevant for educators and school leaders who are supporting neurodivergent learners, navigating MTSS and behavior systems, or feeling stuck between accountability and empathy. It is for anyone who wants data to feel more supportive, actionable, and human.


    Actionable Guidance from Our Panelists

    Our panelists generously shared resources connected to this conversation, including:


    Tom Kaster

    • I can notice when I am dysregulated and take a break.
    • I can put behavior before academics.
    • I can identify what triggers a behavior.
    • I can choose one behavior to focus on instead of everything.
    • I can notice which other students may benefit from the same support.


    Nilsa-Real Carlton

    • I can regulate myself first and recognize my emotional power as an adult.


    • I can choose one support, like a visual schedule.
    • I can use that support consistently.
    • I can remind teachers that consistency builds safety and skills over time.



    Dr. Christopher Graves

    • I can use empathy exercises to understand student behavior.
    • I can reteach skills instead of removing recess.
    • I can focus on what is safe and what needs support.
    • I can commit to a strategy for three days in a row.
    • I can be loving and firm at the same time.

    Links to these resources are available wherever you are listening or watching this episode.


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  • The Students Who Don’t Qualify, But Still Struggle
    Jan 12 2026

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    How do we catch and support the students who don’t qualify for services but clearly need something more?

    Panelists:
    Heather Millnick, MTSS Coordinator, Dogwood Elementary
    Candia Sierra London, Program Specialist, Cajon Valley USD
    Dr. Tim Gray, Data Coach, Anderson Community Schools

    Episode Summary
    In this episode of Data in Education, Jenelle and Jessica are joined by MTSS and student-support experts to explore how we catch and support the students who don’t qualify for services but clearly need something more.

    The conversation focuses on:
    - Early red flags that identify students who are struggling but not qualifying for formal services
    - The dangers of waiting too long to intervene
    - How to support students in simple, sustainable ways that don’t overwhelm teachers
    - How to define and measure meaningful progress for overlooked students

    This episode is especially relevant for educators and leaders who want a more holistic, human-centered view of student needs and who want data to feel supportive, actionable, and easy to use.

    Actionable Guidance from Our Panelists:

    Heather Millnick
    - I can partner with families to understand their student.
    - I can partner with others on my campus to collaborate with our collective expertise.
    - I can identify patterns to make decisions.

    Dr. Tim Gray
    - I can understand that what works for our 'low students' applies to 'high' and ALL students.
    - I can meet teachers where they are to provide strategies that are simple and easy to implement.
    - I can help teachers read complicated data sets.

    Candia Sierra London
    - I can identify one pattern with a student.
    - I can conduct an empathy interview to understand students holistically.

    Candia also made available some free resources connected to our conversation:

    • Student Support 2x10 Strategy
    • Empathy Interviews
    • Circle of Concern Template

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    58 mins
  • From Data to Daily Decisions: What Actually Changes Practice
    Jan 5 2026

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    From Data to Daily Decisions: What Actually Changes Practice

    Panelists:

    Françoise Raoult, Teacher, Coach and EAL Coordinator, International Schools (Beijing, China)
    Dan Cox, Founder & CEO, Endurance Edge


    Episode Summary

    In this episode of Data in Education, Jenelle and Jessica are joined by instructional and system-level leaders to explore how teams can move from reviewing data to making clear, meaningful daily decisions in classrooms.

    The conversation focuses on:

    • The gap between “looking at data” and actually doing something with it, especially when teachers are overwhelmed
    • Why more data is not the answer, and how decision fatigue, unclear systems, and misaligned tools stall action
    • The power of tiny data, reduced friction, and clear next steps over large frameworks and one-size-fits-all initiatives

    Educators will hear practical reframes around slowing down implementation, focusing on one data point at a time, and designing systems that match real classroom bandwidth.

    This episode is especially relevant for educators and leaders who are thinking about MTSS, literacy shifts, progress monitoring, and team collaboration, and want data to feel more supportive, actionable, and human rather than overwhelming or performative.

    Actionable Guidance from Our Panelists

    Françoise Raoult: Structured literacy and fluency-aligned data practices

    • I can focus on ONE kind of data (ex: DIBELS).
    • I can implement a regular practice (ex: fluency 20 mins a day).
    • I can monitor progress regularly (ex: 1 minute reading every 2-3 weeks).

    Dan Cox: Reducing system friction and decision fatigue for educators

    • I can identify tasks that are draining time.
    • I can identify one thing off of my list.
    • I can integrate AI to save time in a meaningful way.
    • I can leave a data meeting with one clear next step instead of many strategies.

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  • Your Data is Boring. Here's How to Fix It. with Danny Bauer
    Oct 30 2025

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    I'm diving into this episode of Data in Education with Danny Bauer, the Chief Ruckus Maker from Better Leaders Better Schools. Danny is a 20-year education veteran, a bestselling author, and the host of a top 1% global podcast (RuckusCast) who is on a mission to prove that the best leaders are the best storytellers. He believes that to truly lead, you have to do more than just present the data; you have to wrap it in a story that connects to the heart. Danny’s entire philosophy is about helping school leaders do school differently. In our chat, he breaks down the exact techniques he uses to craft compelling narratives that turn resistance into resonance and data into a shared call to action.

    Learn more about Danny Bauer at https://betterleadersbetterschools.com

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  • The Head, Heart, Hands, and Guts of a Healthy Data Culture with Bethany Rees
    Oct 16 2025

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    Leaders—are you struggling with meetings that drain instead of deliver, team members who resist buy-in, or tough conversations that keep you up at night? You don’t have to tackle those challenges alone. Head over to leadershipontherocks.com/free where you’ll find practical, FREE resources—from meeting agendas and buy-in guides to tools for navigating conflict—that will help you survive and succeed in leadership.

    In this episode of Data in Education, I'm so excited to be chatting with Bethany Rees, a leadership coach, author, and an 18-year K-12 veteran who has truly seen it all. Her career has been, in her own words, a rollercoaster she didn't buy a ticket for, from teaching ninth-grade civics in small-town Arkansas (with no email, if you can believe it!) to wearing a toolbelt as an instructional technologist in Houston, to opening a brand-new, three-story high school as an Associate Principal. It was, as she calls it, a "beautiful hurricane."

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    41 mins
  • Avoiding the School Initiative Graveyard with Dr. Kristilynn Turney
    Oct 2 2025

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    In this episode of Data in Education, I'm chatting with the absolute powerhouse that is Dr. Kristilynn Turney, a dear friend and a true force in educational leadership. With over 25 years in the game, she’s been a teacher, a principal, and now a consultant who has seen it all, from the highest-performing schools to those that need some serious love. She has this incredible gift for helping schools move past the fear and see data for what it is: a tool to tell the real, authentic story of their students.

    Learn more about Kristilynn Turney at www.drkristilynnturney.com

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    41 mins