You met Kail Lowry at 16, pregnant, on national TV. You never met the girl who came before her. This is a 10-minute preview of part one of my conversation with Kail on For The Hayters, the years no one was watching, told by a friend who thought she knew the whole story and didn't.

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For The Hayters is a podcast that normalizes hard conversations. Listener discretion is advised. TW: child neglect, addiction, sexual assault, abortion.

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CC: 484 Leah Van Dale joins Kail to talk all things motherhood, postpartum, and why two things can be true at once.

From launching Hot Mom Shit and normalizing messy counters, mom guilt, breastfeeding struggles, and body changes, to life with two under two and three bonus kids, Leah gets real about the parts of motherhood people don’t always say out loud.

Plus, Kail shares her WWE training experience, Leah reflects on whether she’d ever return to the ring, and they talk finding yourself again after babies.

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CC: 484 In this bonus solo Coffee Convos episode, Kail catches listeners up after the first leg of tour, shares a heartfelt fan gift that brought both laughs and tears, and reads a moving letter from a recent high school graduate whose story of perseverance and loss left a lasting impact.

Kail also addresses recent listener feedback about the podcast, discusses the challenges of navigating change in real time, and offers an honest look at the growing pains Coffee Convos is experiencing. Plus, she shares behind-the-scenes details from tour, favorite stops along the way, thoughts on live shows, parenting updates, and a listener-submitted foul play about rebuilding trust after years of infidelity.

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