We wrap up the semester with a person who has seen it all from behind closed doors: Mark Hall, President of Spelman Johnson.

Listen to an "insider" describe how to evaluate a new job, why presentations should be eliminated from search processes, what university executives want from leaders and what we labeled the “three Ts” to leading in an uncertain environment.

Stay tuned for the Extra Credit to hear our football picks and why Midwest has trouble getting used to winning! Happy Holidays, friends.

Campus Confidential is presented by Compass Group and produced by Corey Inscoe with your hosts Kelsey Harmon Finn and Loren Rullman.

Right now, higher ed just feels ... so ... “wobbly!”

Kelli Shomaker, Sr. VP and CFO at Auburn University, explains why it’s important to never turn down an opportunity, to always have the courage to ask for what you need, how to evaluate whether the next career move is right for you and why you might want to pick up golf.

Stay for Extra Credit if you want to hear about your hosts’ (horrible!) golf games and Lil Wayne’s advice!

Campus Confidential is presented by Compass Group and produced by Corey Inscoe with your hosts Kelsey Harmon Finn and Loren Rullman.

What can anarchism teach us about employee engagement, inclusive management and workplace dignity? Turns out, quite a bit!

Ari Weinzweig, Co-Founder of Zingerman’s Community of Businesses and a self-proclaimed “lapsed anarchist,” explains how business publications borrow from this thinking, how to paradoxically replicate uniqueness, why hope is not a strategy, and why “leaning into difficulty” is a fundamental leadership trait. Learn more about Ari and read his writing at www.zingermanspress.com. And you can find apricots for dignity and democracy gear here.

Listen to the Extra Credit for favorite quotes from Kelsey and Loren. Bon Appetit!

Campus Confidential is presented by Compass Group and produced by Corey Inscoe with your hosts Kelsey Harmon Finn and Loren Rullman.

Welcome to “opposite day” with Dr. Mary Spellman, Executive Director of the Fletcher Jones Foundation! In this fun episode, Mary explains why, in hard times, being a rule follower requires courage, the importance of doing the work and not just quieting the noise, that you can survive the difficult decisions, and why “getting back on the horse” is essential to leadership.

In the spirit of opposite day, we recorded Extra Credit first and included Mary in the chat. Listen in to find out who among us needs to repeatedly hit the alarm clock snooze button!

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Campus Confidential is presented by Compass Group and produced by Corey Inscoe with your hosts Kelsey Harmon Finn and Loren Rullman.

Dr. Victor Boschini, Chancellor Emeritus of Texas Christian University, is the perfect guest to launch Season 5. Our theme this season is “This Moment, This Leader” and acknowledges higher education tumult.

Dr. Boschini describes how two jobs taught him everything he needed to know, how leadership is more like water than cement, why 70% of the information you want is sufficient for decision-making and how to decide when to stay in or change jobs.

Oh, and we talk football, hear Kelsey’s favorite interview question, and learn about the one time Loren was fired from a job!

Campus Confidential is presented by Compass Group and produced by Corey Inscoe with your hosts Kelsey Harmon Finn and Loren Rullman.

The last day of Summer Camp has arrived. In our final conversation, we realize that while we’re wishing for easier days, we are in the role we were called to fulfill. Campus leaders get few easy decisions, looking too far down the road causes us to miss the good right in front of us, and inventorying what we CAN do helps with what we can’t do.

So, take the vacation, enjoy the ride and know you are doing enough.

Campus Confidential is presented by Compass Group and produced by Corey Inscoe with your hosts Kelsey Harmon Finn and Loren Rullman.

It was bound to happen, and one of us brought up PARENTS!

Listen to the latest episode of the Summer Camp series as we chat about how to include parents ... but with boundaries, whether our childhoods were different than today’s generation, and how focusing on the “9” frees us from the “math” (you’ll just have to listen).

Hang with us until the end to hear how Loren responded when his daughter told him campus dining center lines were too long!

Campus Confidential is presented by Compass Group and produced by Corey Inscoe with your hosts Kelsey Harmon Finn and Loren Rullman.

This. Is. A. Hard. Time!

In the second episode of our Summer Camp series, we talked about whether we feel like we’re doing enough or feeling helpless, where to look to stay positive, how life’s rituals can reinforce a positive mindset, and how to avoid getting distracted by stuff that doesn’t matter, because it’s unlikely we’re going back to some halcyon time.

(Bonus: Kelsey tries out urban dictionary slang on the other campers!).

Campus Confidential is presented by Compass Group and produced by Corey Inscoe with your hosts Kelsey Harmon Finn and Loren Rullman.