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Business Trip

Business Trip

By: Greg Kubin & Matias Serebrinsky
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Business Trip explores the frontiers of brain and mental health through conversations with founders, investors, and researchers at the intersection of neuroscience and technology.

© 2026 Business Trip
Alternative & Complementary Medicine Hygiene & Healthy Living Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Science
Episodes
  • Brain Organoids: from Space to AI with Alysson Muotri
    May 14 2026

    Professor Alysson R. Muotri (geneticist and developmental biologist at UC San Diego) joins for a far out conversation about sending brain organoids to the International Space Station and what they're teaching us about aging, neurological disease, and a new kind of AI. One month in orbit ages an organoid the equivalent of 10 years on Earth, and Alysson's lab has already used that compressed timeline to unlock an FDA-approved clinical trial for a drug developed in space.

    In this episode, we discuss:

    • Why space accelerates brain aging
    • The surprising role of "junk DNA" and endogenous retroviruses in neuroinflammation and neurodegeneration
    • Why HIV antiretroviral drugs may be the key to treating neurological conditions
    • What the decommissioning of the ISS and the rise of commercial space stations mean for biomedical research
    • How brain organoids learn, remember, and inspire a new generation of AI algorithms beyond transformers
    • The bioethics frontier: when do organoids become conscious and how would we even know?


      Credits:

      Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
      Host: Matias and Greg
      Produced by Nico V. Rey
      Find us at businesstrip.fm and psymed.ventures
      Follow us on Instagram and Twitter!
      Theme music by Dorian Love
      Additional Music: Distant Daze by Zack Frank
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    34 mins
  • How Gilgamesh Landed a $1.2B AbbVie Deal in Psychedelics
    Mar 25 2026

    Jonathan Sporn (CEO + Founder of Gilgamesh Pharma) joins for a deep dive into next-gen psychedelic medicines, why duration matters for real-world clinical use, and what it takes to build these therapies the way large pharma would—culminating in a partnership with AbbVie worth up to $1.2B.

    In this episode, we discuss:
    • Why Gilgamesh is building psychedelic medicines the way large pharma would
    • The thesis behind short-acting psychedelics and why long-duration trips are impractical for real-world psychiatry
    • How Gilgamesh designs molecules backwards from clinical needs
    • Effective approaches to the challenges of trial designs for psychedelics
    • What AbbVie’s deal and Spravato’s trajectory mean for psychedelics
    • How psychedelic medicines could reshape mental health




    Credits:

    Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
    Host: Matias and Greg
    Produced by Nico V. Rey

    Find us at businesstrip.fm and psymed.ventures
    Follow us on Instagram and Twitter!
    Theme music by Dorian Love
    Additional Music: Distant Daze by Zack Frank

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    26 mins
  • Inside Philanthropy’s Role in Mental & Brain Health
    Jan 27 2026

    Greg speaks with three leaders in mental health philanthropy: Alyson Nieman from Mindful Philanthropy, Sabrina Gracias from Ortus Foundation, and Christena Huntsman Durham from Huntsman Mental Health Foundation, each offering a distinct perspective on how funding decisions get made and where the biggest gaps remain.

    In this episode we discuss:

    • Trends in mental health philanthropy, and the 10-year challenge: how the field moves from roughly $2B to $35B in annual funding.
    • Funding the clinic of the future: a $150M philanthropic gift behind the Huntsman Mental Health Institute’s crisis care center
    • Youth mental health: how the Ortus Foundation is addressing regional gaps in the US Intermountain West

    Credits:

    Created by Greg Kubin and Matias Serebrinsky
    Host: Greg Kubin
    Produced by Caitlin Ner & Nico V. Rey

    Find us at businesstrip.fm and psymed.ventures
    Follow us on Instagram and Twitter!
    Theme music by Dorian Love
    Additional Music: Distant Daze by Zack Frank

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    42 mins
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