it’s the spice of life.

— (1:25) Frustration is the aesthetic of each center — (6:10) Frustration as the basis of human suffering and expression of personality — (7:56) Bermuda Overlays and frustration as personalized flavor / rejection as the elemental substrate of each center — (14:25) Frustration doesn’t give up on their needs but unwilling to work with how to get its needs met / the knot of not having — (16:58) Rejection cut off vs frustration in relationships — (24:13) Everyone’s shitting on the thing they most want — (31:57) Rejection and attachment both have a self-erasing quality / ‘attachment as exposition, frustration as rising action, rejection as conclusion’ — (39:27) The social engagement of the world is low on frustration / you’re not a person if you don’t hate something — (42:16) 2 vs 4 love is not the same / frustration is essential to seeing someone’s personhood — (52:57) Attachment-rejection vs attachment-frustration strategies — (55:13) To be aesthetic means prioritizing your preferences over maintaining connection / 4 seeing people as aesthetic holograms — (1:00:50) Universal bread people attraction vs personal specific attraction

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Alejohndra are back with tales of their Egypt trip.

— (1:25) John and Alexandra recap their retreat to Egypt — (9:05) What about the aliens? / the construction of the pyramids had to be an exercise in presence and intention — (16:23) The femininity of Egypt — (21:04) Egypt peaked early and then fell off hard — (31:06) Special John the mystical guide / the inner quality of the group — (37:50) The descent down into the deep chambers — (45:22) The acoustics of the pyramids — (52:55) A sacred culture that honors the divine and human animal nature — (58:48) Egypt activates something in you that values the sacred — (1:13:05) Hexad conversion therapy

Enneagrammer — Become dangerously perceptive and skilled at seeing types clearly. Watch recent classes on Princess Diana, P-Diddy, and the Bermuda Overlays and get typed at: https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram readings and content at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com

Rediscover the centers of intelligence and object relations with John and Josh’s 6-part class https://www.theenneagramschool.com/developmental-centers

Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T

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In this episode of WILTBY Josh interviews Louis.

— (4:50) Josh processing his 2-wing and meeting Louis at the zone / the team love vs team truth confrontation — (11:45) 3w2 facilitating and orchestrating connection vs 3w4 distant excellence — (16:35) The philosophy of truth vs love in psychotherapy — (20:49) Carl Rogers unconditional positive regard — (29:30) What Josh finds annoying about 4 skepticism of love and connection — (33:39) Louis’ identification with predator swag — (42:24) 3w2 vs 3w4 in a team scenario / team vs self orientation — (48:31) How Josh realized he had a 2-wing / Louis’ social mode of separateness and why he became a therapist — (57:41) Differences in processing negativity and aesthetic frustration — (1:09:51) The 3w2 tenet of always having something to appreciate about anything — (1:24:08) The ideal ego fantasy for 3w2 vs 3w4

Enneagrammer — Become dangerously perceptive and skilled at seeing types clearly. Watch recent classes on Jennifer Lopez, P-Diddy, and the Bermuda Overlays and get typed at: https://www.enneagrammer.com/

Check out Alexandra’s astrology-enneagram readings and content at her new website https://www.saturnruled9.com

Rediscover the centers of intelligence and object relations with John and Josh’s 6-part class https://www.theenneagramschool.com/developmental-centers

Get John’s book on the instinctual drives on amazon or barnesandnoble: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0578784971/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VZ3VZVEG0M1RY42AWN2T

Buy David’s Trifix Booklet here: https://www.enneagrammer.com/store/trifix-venn-booklet-david-gray

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