Kelly grew up in Eight Mile in Michigan, the same streets Eminem rapped about.

His house was absolute chaos: a drunk stepfather, a drunk mother who once stabbed her husband and set the house on fire, and a kid who learned to survive by reading the room before anything else. By the time he got to college, he was selling drugs, racking up arrests, and lying on every job application about his two felonies. Then he went to jail.

That four months in a cell changed him forever: Kelly realized he was good at sales and started a telecom brokerage from nothing. He built it into a multimillion-dollar company even without a website.

Kelly wrote Harder Than Life. Then Happier Than Life. He built a podcast and an AI-driven cybersecurity company.

And he keeps going back into the hard stuff because he's learned feeling it is the only way through it.

In this episode, we tackled:

→ Why alcohol and drugs are always a symptom of the disease

→ The childhood trauma that drove his addiction for decades

→ His TLC framework for rebuilding your mind, body, and life

→ What faith, surrender, and a specific prayer to God have done for his business

→ Why the thing you keep avoiding is your actual portal to growth

Kelly told me you can't heal what you're unwilling to reveal… Everything opened up once he stopped sugarcoating how bad things really were.

Thank you Kelly for bringing this level of honesty into the room!

Chapters

0:00 - Introduction

1:00 - Kelly's Background: Eight Mile, Eminem, and Growing Up Poor

3:30 - Selling Drugs, Getting Arrested, and Two Felonies

6:45 - Jail, the Wake-Up Call, and the First Honest Job

10:30 - Dillon Shares His Own Story: Heroin at 18

14:00 - Faith, God Moments, and the Power of a Specific Ask

17:00 - Why Kelly Stopped Drinking and What Happened Next

21:30 - The 15 Days of Anxiety: Healing Childhood Trauma

25:00 - What Being Happier Than Life Actually Looks Like

27:30 - The TLC Framework: Train, Learn, Coach

32:00 - Finding Common Ground in a Divided World

35:30 - Final Message: TLC, Truth, and How to Get Both Books Free

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Early on in his sales career, Dan received a $0 commission check. With a wife and kids at home to take care of, it was a moment that changed him forever…

Dan Russell is VP of National Sales at Trion Solutions, overseeing payroll, HR, and benefits for over a million employees across the globe. But before any of that, he was a mortgage banker trying to do right by his clients in an industry that stopped letting him.

In this episode we tackled:

→ Why Dan walked away from mortgage banking at its peak

→ What a $0 commission check teaches you that success never will

→ How Trion handled an employee dying on a client's floor in real time

→ Why asking for help is the most underrated skill in business

→ What community investment actually looks like when no one's watching

A huge takeaway from my time with Dan was that asking for help isn't a sign you don't have it together… it's how people who actually have it together got there.

Dan, thanks a ton for coming in and being so open about the hard moments. Appreciate you dude!

Chapters

0:00 - Introduction & Welcome

1:00 - What Dan Does at Trion Solutions

1:55 - How Dan's Company Got Acquired

2:49 - The Mortgage Banking Days

4:35 - The $0 Commission Check

5:43 - Why Dan Left Banking and Found PEO

8:20 - Sink or Swim: Learning a Brand New Industry

10:55 - Why You Have to Know Your Product

21:55 - What the Best Business Owners Have in Common

27:48 - When a Client Called About a Dead Employee

34:36 - Community Work: Covenant House and Beyond

38:45 - Homeless Youth and the "Lost Generation"

41:53 - Advice to His Younger Self

46:39 - Stop Trying to Do It Alone

47:07 - Why Starting Matters More Than Being Ready

49:39 - Gratitude as a Practice, Not a Feeling

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Maggie George is a criminal defense attorney and partner at George Law Firm in Royal Oak, Michigan. Before she ever set foot in a courtroom, she spent 13 years with a mortgage lender, worked a stint on Capitol Hill, and raised a one-year-old while taking the LSAT on maternity leave.

In this episode of Beyond The Hustle we covered:

→ What it's actually like to defend someone you know is guilty

→ The drunk driving death trial that almost ended in a mistrial

→ How AI is already changing who walks through a defense attorney's door

→ What running a law firm with your husband looks like when it actually works

Maggie told me that she never wants to be the smartest person in the room, and if she is, she’s in the wrong room.

Chapters

0:00 - Introduction & Teaser

1:00 - Meet Maggie George: Attorney, Partner, and Career Chameleon

3:00 - What Criminal Defense and Civil Litigation Actually Mean

5:00 - From Capitol Hill to Quicken Loans to Law School

9:00 - Running a Law Firm With Your Husband

12:00 - What Happens When You Know Your Client Did It

15:00 - The Drunk Driving Death Trial That Almost Ended in a Mistrial

19:00 - What Law School Doesn't Teach You

22:00 - The Clients Who Come Back Sober

25:00 - Building a Brand in a New Market: The Florida Expansion

30:00 - How AI Is Already Changing Criminal Defense

36:00 - What George Law Does and Who They Help

37:00 - The Best Advice for Anyone Starting in Law

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Business has always been Billy Baumann's love language.

Billy is the founder of Second Chair Advisory, where he helps private equity firms find the deals nobody else is seeing. But the path to get here wasn't a straight line… It was winding, expensive, and completely humbling.

But what came out the other side was someone who speaks a language most M&A advisors can't: the language of someone who's actually been broke, actually made payroll decisions at 2 am, and actually knows what it costs to build something from zero.

In this episode of Beyond The Hustle, we go into:

→ How to use your personal network to get your first clients when you have no money and no credibility

→ Why profitable and actually making money are two completely different things on a balance sheet

→ How Billy is using AI agents to generate proprietary deal flow for private equity firms

→ What the M&A world looks like for trade business owners who've never heard of EBITDA

→ Why seasons matter in business and why some people are only meant to be in your story for a chapter

Billy, thank you for coming on the show and getting deep. Appreciate you man!

Chapters

0:00 - Intro & Welcome

1:00 - Meet Billy Baumann

4:00 - Business as a Love Language: The Donut Shop Story

8:30 - How Billy's Entrepreneurial Mind Showed Up as a Kid

10:45 - College, Failing Out (Twice), and Finding His Way Back

13:00 - Early Sales Jobs: GNC, AT&T, and Learning to Sell

19:45 - First Real Business Opportunity and Building a Team from Scratch

23:15 - Going Broke, Defaulting on Credit Cards, and Betting on Yourself

27:00 - Landing the First Big Placement and Growing Through Referrals

31:30 - The Grant Cardone Era and Getting Shredded on Stage

36:40 - 2023: Losing His Father and What Came After

41:00 - The Home Care Company, the Pivot, and Finding M&A

47:30 - How AI Is Changing Deal Flow for Private Equity Firms

55:00 - A Step-by-Step Example of Using Claude to Build a Business Plan

1:09:26 - One Piece of Advice for Every Entrepreneur Starting Out

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Dan Dulka and I started Drive Creative over 10 years ago but that’s when the real education began.

The first year or two was mostly brute force since cash was tight.. Right when we landed manufacturing clients and a public company with $2 billion in annual revenue, Covid hit. We lost most of our business overnight.

But instead of pivoting fast, Dan shared how we held on and hoped. But hope is NOT a good strategy.

In this episode, we tackled:

→ How Covid forced a full pivot

→ Why implementing EOS changed our partnership and the way we ran the company

→ How we’re rebuilding our team model around AI to create more leverage without losing culture

→ What "AI Thursdays" looks like and why we started it

Though it’s taken 10 years, it really does feel like something shifted three years ago. Like we went from hustling through the work to actually building something with intention.

Dan, thanks for coming on the show and sharing the story of Drive Creative!

Chapters

0:00 - Introduction

1:10 - Who Is Dan Dulka and What Does Drive Do?

3:15 - Building the Team: AI as Leverage, Not a Replacement

6:00 - Training AI Like You'd Train an Employee

9:23 - AI Thursdays: How Drive Is Getting Their Team Up to Speed

13:33 - How Drive Started 10 Years Ago

15:20 - The Early Grind: Cash, Clients, and Brute Force

17:05 - How Covid Devastated Their Manufacturing Focus

18:37 - The Three Pivots That Turned Things Around

23:06 - How EOS Fixed a Fractured Partnership

27:47 - What the Operating System Actually Does for a Small Business

33:18 - What Entrepreneurship Gives You That a 9-to-5 Doesn't

39:55 - Facing Fear: Everest Base Camp With a Heights Phobia

44:21 - Bravery in Business Is the Same as Bravery on a Mountain

49:12 - What We'd Tell Ourselves on Day One

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In this episode of Beyond The Hustle, we sit down with Jake Smith, Financial Advisor at M1 Capital Management. Jake shares his journey into the financial industry, the experiences that shaped his career, and the lessons he’s learned while helping individuals and families plan for their financial future.

We also discuss the importance of long-term financial planning, building trust with clients, navigating career growth, and practical financial advice for professionals and business owners looking to create stability and wealth over time.

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M1 Capital Management: m1capitalmanagement.com

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In this episode of Beyond The Hustle, we sit down with Sterling Hughey, owner of Sterling Construction and Roofing. Sterling shares how he got his start working for his father in high school before launching his own roofing company.

We also talk about the trials and growing pains of entrepreneurship, and how Sterling Construction and Roofing has grown into a trusted provider in the industry.

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Sterling Construction: sterlingconst.com

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In this episode of Beyond The Hustle, we sit down with Kathy Camara, CEO and co-founder of Entech Medical Staffing. Kathy shares her inspiring story of starting out filing papers after high school, working her way up, and eventually launching her own staffing company.

We also talk about the lessons she’s learned in the staffing industry, the challenges she’s overcome, and how emerging technologies like AI will shape the future of staffing.

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LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kathy-camara-0410754

Entech Medical Staffing: entechstaffingsolutions.com

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