In this episode, Brownie and I dive into something we don't talk about enough: what happens AFTER you let go of something. You know that moment when you think you're over it... and then it hits you again?

Brownie shares her "shelf method" for processing tough stuff (like when she went through cancer and had to break the news to her daughter). It sounds weird, but visualizing different reactions on a shelf and picking one when you need it? It actually works.

We get real about how letting go isn't just one decision. It's like hitting a blender without the lid on. Everything goes EVERYWHERE. The dust settles, you find the mess in places you didn't expect, and you realize you're dealing with way more than you thought.

We’re Chatting About:

• Why the decision to let go is actually the EASY part
• How your identity shifts when you release something (or someone)
• That weird void that shows up when you stop being in survival mode
• Why you might feel MORE overwhelmed after making a healthy choice
• The physical toll of emotional transitions (your nervous system is literally recalibrating!)

From grieving loved ones to grieving bits of the life you thought you’d lead, we’re not shying away from any of it.

If you’re letting go of something, give yourself a break. Seriously. If you thought you were over something and it hits you again - that's NORMAL. You're not weak. You're not failing at healing. You're human. Don't lose sleep over letting go. Don't fill the void with unhealthy stuff. Sit with the uncomfortable feelings. Let your heart and mind catch up to the decision you made.

Today's main topic hit close to home for both of us: being addicted to saying "yes." I’m sure you’ve met people who surround themselves with "yes people" who never challenge them, and people who can't say no to anyone.

If you're a leader who only wants to hear agreement, you're setting yourself up for massive failure. You're shutting off wisdom because your ego won't let it come through. The people who truly have your best interests at heart will eventually walk away when they realize you don't value their honest input.

We talked about how Jesus corrected his disciples and how they weren't afraid to question him either. That's the kind of relationship we should all have with the people in our corner. We should strive for collaborative, honest relationships with people who are willing to listen.

If someone disagrees with you, it's not always a personal attack. Sometimes the maintenance person has better insight than the CEO. Sometimes your spouse sees something you can't because they're removed from the immediate situation. Don't discount wisdom just because of where it's coming from.

On the flip side, if you're someone who always says yes to everyone, you're probably neglecting the people closest to you. It's exhausting to constantly put out other people's fires, and it opens you up to being manipulated. We even touched on how this applies to adult children and their parents. You're allowed to say no to your parents without guilt when you have your own family.

The bottom line? Find balance. Listen to the good people around you. Examine why you need constant approval or why you can't say no. Stop being a "finger princess" who expects everyone to drop everything for you. Surround yourself with people who want to grow and who genuinely care about you, not just what you can do for them. And remember, if you want blind adoration, get a dog!

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We just hit 1,000 downloads and we’re so grateful to all of you for listening! As a thank you, we're ready to dive into all the things that have been driving us crazy lately with a classic rant session!

Irene gets us started with one of her biggest pet peeves: delivery drivers who leave stuff directly in front of her door! Doordash and Instacart have been huge blessings for people like us who hate driving. But our gratitude is dampened every time we have to weasel our way out of a little crack in the door to get our food! And don't even get us started on the ones who show up reeking of weed. That smell gets on our food bags, which is just gross.

Another thing that really gets under my skin is when service providers size you up and charge you based on what they think you can afford rather than having a standard price list. It's so manipulative and obvious! I've had this happen with everything from home repair estimates to nail salons where the price mysteriously changes between visits for the exact same service.

We also need to talk about drive-through etiquette because it's getting ridiculous out there. Pull up to the appropriate spot so the person behind you can order! Don't leave a whole car length in front of you when we're all boxed in with no way to escape. I've honked at people and gotten the finger in return, but I'm not trying to be rude! I just want to pay and leave. And while we're at it, stop staring at your phone and pay attention to the line moving. This isn't a contest to see who gets their food first. Just scoot up, people!

Finally, I have to vent about Chili's discontinuing their Skillet Queso. I am genuinely angry about this. That queso has been my favorite thing there for as long as I can remember, and it's won actual restaurant awards! Why would you get rid of something that's clearly beloved? This happens all the time with restaurants and retailers - they discontinue their best-selling items for no good reason. Olive Garden does it, Victoria's Secret does it with their best-fitting bras, MAC does it with top-selling makeup. There are so few simple pleasures in life, so why take them away?

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In today’s first guest episode, we sit down with Deena, and dive deep into what it really means to find your place in faith!

Deena opens up about her journey through different denominations. From feeling that pushy, judgmental vibe when people would try to get her to their church as a girl, to discovering genuine connection with God that went beyond any building or tradition. Even when church felt off, she knew deep down that God loved her and she loved Him back.

After hearing about mine and Irene’s relationship to church last week, it’s interesting to see the ways our stories converge and differ. Irene shares her own struggle with feeling invisible in church spaces, that painful realization of thinking, "If I don't matter here, do I even matter to God?" It's a conversation that gets real about the difference between religion and relationship, and why authentic care matters so much more than having all the right answers.

Deena's story doesn't stop there. As a healthcare provider, educator, wife, and mother who spent over a decade in church ministry and leadership, she brings incredible perspective on building the kind of healthy church friendships that actually sustain us. And she vulnerably shares about her victory over addiction, a journey where faith and genuine community made all the difference.

This one's for anyone who's ever felt like they didn't quite fit in the church world, or wondered if there's more to faith than what they've experienced. It's honest, it's hopeful, and it's a reminder that people don't care how much you know until they know how much you care.

In today’s episode, we’re chatting about:

• Early faith in a family that mostly went to Church on holidays
• The danger of feeling invisible at church
• The difference between knowing about God and experiencing God
• Finding relationships that feel right at Church

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Growing up in church is supposed to feel like home. But for many of us, somewhere along the way, the place meant to offer grace can become a source of control, shame, and hurt. So today, we’re telling our stories. Without pointing any fingers, we think it’s important to talk about what makes church feel like home and what doesn’t.

My great-grandmother was one of the first female pastors in our town back in the 20s and I’ve served on the church staff myself. I've seen both the beautiful and the broken sides of church culture. This isn't about losing faith in God; it's about recognizing that when humans run institutions, things can go sideways.

Irene watched her sister get publicly shamed from the pulpit for going to see Jurassic Park. She saw her family get criticized for arriving 5 minutes late because her dad had to work. She describes experiencing in churches where you needed "special clearance from heaven" just to flip the transparency sheets for song lyrics, where girls got lectured about modesty while boys talked about video games, and where leaving meant you ceased to exist to people who claimed to love unconditionally.

The control was subtle but suffocating, and it took years to realize that what she experienced wasn't normal. But here's what we’ve also discovered along the way: church gave us some of the most profound friendships of our lives. When we finally found a community that didn't operate on shame and control, we experienced healing we didn't even know we needed.

So if you’ve got what we call “church hurt,” you’re not alone. This is not about losing faith in God. We’re both walking in faith with eyes wide open to the ways that people can flub His message. We hope today’s episode brought some comfort and if you can see yourself in our stories, stay tuned! More is coming on this topic soon!

Today, we’re chatting about:

• Generational church involvement and family dynamics
• Controlling church culture and shame tactics
• Healing through healthy church community
• Current disconnection and the debate about staying

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Merry Christmas!! Pull up a chair, pour some hot cocoa, and let’s celebrate together. This Christmas episode is all about the real, messy, and hilarious side of the holidays. It may be 70 degrees here in Texas, but we’re doing everything we can to feel the Christmas spirit, including a rant session!

We share our annual traditions, from last-minute gift wrapping to reminiscing about family trips to Vegas and the magical displays at the Bellagio. There’s a lot of laughter as we swap stories about family, nostalgia, and the quirks that make this season so memorable.

We talk about the awkwardness of receiving gifts from people who clearly don’t know (or like) us, and the pitfalls of gifting food and booze. At the end of the day, it’s so important that you show you actually know and love the person you’re gifting for, even if it’s a last minute thing!

We also dive into the world of Christmas cards and newsletters. I admit I’m not a fan of photo cards from acquaintances, and we both poke fun at the tradition of sending out annual newsletters that feel more like bragging than genuine connection. Holiday shopping gets its own rant, too. I vent about the chaos of parking lots, rude shoppers, and the stress of last-minute store runs. We share our retail horror stories and remind everyone to be kind to staff during the busiest time of year.

Despite all the rants, there’s so much we truly love about Christmas: the traditions, the lights, the time spent with family, and the joy of giving thoughtful gifts. At the end of the day, it’s about gratitude, togetherness, and making memories, no matter how imperfect.

in today's episode, we're chatting about:

• It’s beginning to look a lot like a 70 Degrees Christmas!
• The art of giving (and receiving) thoughtful gifts
• Our take on Christmas cards and those infamous family newsletters
• Surviving holiday shopping and retail chaos
• The traditions and little moments that make Christmas special

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Have you ever realized in a split second that you’re the only one standing between your child and a lifetime of people-pleasing? That’s exactly what hit Irene during a seemingly simple family outing, when her daughter just wanted to ride alone at a holiday light display but another parent’s decision put her in an uncomfortable spot.

So this week, we’re reflecting on the boundaries that are needed to stand up to false expectations. Whether we’re talking about allowing a child to say no or navigating misogynistic conditions in the workforce, the ability to speak up for yourself is imperative.

For many of us, there was still an unspoken pressure to accept advice and never push back. It’s funny how those mixed messages can stick with you, and how they show up later in work, relationships, and even the way you parent. I’m realizing more and more how those early lessons can make it hard to trust your own decisions, especially when you’re used to second-guessing yourself.

We get real about leadership, criticism, and the moving goalposts that can make us feel like we’re never quite enough. I talk about my journey through different careers and leadership roles, and how I’ve learned to recognize when someone else’s expectations are boxing me in. It’s not easy to break out of those patterns, but we’re both learning to trust our own instincts and not let constant nitpicking shake our confidence.

Letting go of perfection has been a big theme for us lately. The gift I’m giving myself this year for my birthday (today, BTW), is relaxed standards. Irene has stopped worrying so much about what others think, and started dressing and living in a way that feels good to her. I’ve stopped bowing to people who want me to feel like I’m not good at my job (spoiler alert: I AM). There’s a real freedom in realizing you don’t have to follow someone else’s playbook, whether it’s about your career, your style, or how you celebrate the holidays.

In today’s episode, we’re chatting about:

• Letting your child say no
• Empowering women to push back
• What pushing back on expectations looks like as a leader
• What expectations we’re letting go of to have a lighter new year

Okay, real talk! Have you ever found yourself in the middle of the holiday chaos, wondering if you’re the only one who’s still figuring out what really matters (besides snowman cookies and the best Christmas movies)? You’re not alone, friend. This episode is basically us, cozied up with coffee, getting honest about the wild ride that is friendship, boundaries, and self-worth, especially when the holidays bring all the feelings.

We kick things off with some birthday month excitement (Vegas or Disneyland, anyone?), a rundown of our must-watch holiday movies, and a few stories that’ll have you laughing (yes, including the infamous runaway horse at church). If you’re here for the festive vibes and a little nostalgia, you’re in the right place.

But then we get into the good stuff: what it really means to have core values and stick to them, even when it’s hard. We talk about the deal-breakers, the drama, and why sometimes you just have to close the door on people who don’t respect your boundaries. Sometimes you’re not being judgmental, you’re protecting your peace!

We also get super real about self-worth with a conversation about how easy it is to let someone else’s opinion mess with your head, and how important it is to remember who you are (and who you’re not). There are stories about manipulative friends, awkward dating app moments, and why it’s totally okay to say “nope” to anything that doesn’t feel right.

In today’s episode, we’re chatting about:

• Why core values matter (and how to figure out yours)
• Setting boundaries and knowing your deal-breakers
• Holiday traditions, nostalgia, and a little chaos
• Standing up for your self-worth (even when it’s tough)
• Letting go of friendships that just aren’t it anymore

So grab your favorite holiday treat, settle in, and let’s get into it. We’re here for the laughs, the real talk, and maybe a little bit of therapy, bestie style!

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