In this episode, we explore what it means to educate young people in a time of deep civic division. Students are growing up surrounded by polarization, yet schools remain one of the few places where people are still asked to learn and engage across differences.

Joining the conversation is Colin Woodard, Director of Nationhood Lab at Salve Regina University's Pell Center and a New York Times best-selling author. Nationhood Lab examines the stories Americans tell about identity, belonging, and what holds the country together—and how those stories shape the health of our democracy.

We discuss how historical settlement patterns continue to influence regional divides in the United States, affecting trust, community engagement, and perspectives on major issues. Woodard also highlights the importance of social capital—the relationships and shared spaces that help communities function and thrive.

For educators, this conversation connects directly to the work happening in schools every day. Classrooms are not just places where history is taught, but where students learn how to listen, disagree, and build community. They are spaces where young people begin to understand their role in civic life.

Despite the current climate, there is also reason for hope. Research shows that Americans still share strong agreement around core democratic ideals, including those found in the Declaration of Independence.

This episode invites educators to reflect on the stories students are inheriting, the communities they are helping to shape, and the role schools can play in fostering a more connected and thoughtful civic future.

Key Topics:

• Teaching during a time of polarization
• Nationhood Lab and the study of American identity
• Regional divides and their historical roots
• The role of social capital in community health
• Schools as spaces for civic learning and belonging
• Shared democratic values in a divided nation

Guest:
Colin Woodard
Director, Nationhood Lab at the Pell Center
New York Times best-selling author

https://www.nationhoodlab.org/

If creativity, curiosity, and connection matter to you, this episode is a good one to queue up for Father's Day weekend.

This week, we welcome back writer and researcher Brian Boone for a conversation about trivia, fandom, and why the facts we collect are often connected to the people, places, stories, and memories we care about most.

Brian writes across genres, but his work has a throughline: he knows how to make research feel playful, surprising, and deeply human. In this episode, he shares why "trivia is not trivial," how curiosity can become a bridge between generations, and why his latest book may be the kind of Father's Day gift that starts a conversation rather than simply fills a shelf.

Listen in for a conversation about the joy of knowing odd things, the communities that form around shared interests, and the way small facts can carry big meaning.

In this episode, we discuss:

Why trivia can be a form of connection
How research becomes storytelling
The fandom surrounding Brian Boone's work
Why curiosity matters across generations
How a book of trivia can become a thoughtful Father's Day weekend gift
Why the things we remember often say something about what we value

Featured Guest:
Brian Boone, writer, researcher, and author

Learn more:

https://www.simonandschuster.com/authors/Brian-Boone/2137715445

Award-winning author Aida Salazar joins us to discuss Stream, her new middle grade novel in verse featuring Celi and Elio, two teens sent to rural Mexico after a viral catfishing incident exposes how much of their lives has been shaped by screens.

Salazar describes Stream as part of an unintended loose trilogy that began with The Moon Within and continued with Ultraviolet. In this new standalone story, she brings Celi and Elio together for a summer without internet, electricity, or running water. What begins as exile becomes something more complicated: a return to land, body, culture, family history, and the question of what young people are taking in through their digital streams.

The conversation moves through the book's layered title, from the literal stream to the social media feed to the inner stream of consciousness. Salazar also talks about writing young people without condescension, why story can help teens make sense of mistakes, and how fiction can offer parents and educators a less preachy way into conversations about digital life.

She opens up about the craft of writing in verse, including the "split screen" structure of the book, where Celi and Elio occupy different sides of the page. For Salazar, voice is built through word choice, rhythm, and punctuation. Verse gives her a way to access the inner life of young people with precision, music, humor, and white space.

This episode also explores embodiment, attention, and creativity. Salazar reflects on visiting the land in Mexico where her mother and ancestors were born, describing a powerful moment of physical connection to place that helped shape the novel. She speaks about writing in service of children, working in artistic communities, and why creativity belongs to everyone, not only people who call themselves artists.

About the Book:
Stream follows newly graduated eighth graders Celi and Elio, who are sent from Oakland, California, to the same rancho in Mexico after their parents become alarmed by their screen use. In rural Mexico, Celi helps her tías in a healing clinic while Elio works to rehabilitate a river. Slowly, both characters begin to shed parts of their online selves and reconnect with nature, culture, family, and their own inner lives.

The novel is a standalone story connected to Salazar's earlier verse novels The Moon Within and Ultraviolet.

About Aida Salazar:
Aida Salazar is an award-winning author and arts activist whose work explores identity, justice, culture, and belonging. Her books include Ultraviolet, an ALA Pura Belpré Honor Book; The Moon Within, winner of the International Latino Book Award; Land of the Cranes, winner of the Américas Award; and the Caldecott Honor picture book Jovita Wore Pants: The Story of a Mexican Freedom Fighter. She lives in Oakland, California, with her family of artists.

In This Conversation:
Aida Salazar discusses:

• Why Stream became part of an unintended trilogy with The Moon Within and Ultraviolet

• How social media, puberty, crushes, shame, identity, and selfhood intersect for young people

• Why adults need compassion when talking with teens about digital life

• How story can help young readers think through mistakes without feeling lectured

• Why she writes in verse and how poetry gives access to the "interior landscape" of emotion

• The craft decision to place Celi and Elio on different sides of the page

• How a visit to ancestral land in Mexico shaped the book's attention to body, place, and healing

• Why creativity is not reserved for professional artists

• Her forthcoming picture book Sana Sana and a future verse novel connected to Ultraviolet that explores AI

For Educators, Parents, and Caregivers:
This conversation offers a useful way to think about screen life without panic or oversimplification. Salazar does not frame young people as careless or broken. Instead, she asks what they are absorbing, what they are performing, what they are longing for, and what kinds of stories might help them reclaim agency.

For educators, Stream also makes a strong case for including middle grade and YA fiction in professional learning spaces. The book gives adults a way to re-enter the perspective of young people and talk about technology, embodiment, culture, and attention through story rather than lecture.

What does it really mean to "be yourself"?

In this episode, Tricia speaks with Meredith Walker about her new book and the deeper work of self-discovery. Meredith's motto, "get your hair wet," becomes the perfect entry point for a conversation about joining the moment instead of protecting the version of ourselves we think we need to present.

Together, they explore why identity is not something we solve once, but something we keep returning to. Meredith shares how her work with young people, storytelling, comedy, friendship, and even dogs has shaped the way she thinks about confidence, connection, and becoming.

This conversation is especially useful for educators, families, and anyone supporting adolescents as they ask bigger questions about who they are, what matters to them, and how they want to move through the world.

Why "just be yourself" is not enough guidance for young people

How self-discovery changes as we meet new people and gain new experiences

Why rethinking success matters at every age

What storytelling can offer young people who need to feel seen and heard

How comedy helps us loosen shame and make room for play

Why friendship can be a bridge to deeper self-understanding

The role of face-to-face connection in a digital world

What dogs can teach us about attention, love, and belonging

00:01 — Meredith explains the story behind her motto, "get your hair wet"

01:13 — Why being yourself requires reflection, not just confidence

03:32 — Rethinking success beyond career ladders and external approval

04:13 — Meredith shares a powerful story from a storytelling workshop with girls living in a Syrian refugee camp

06:02 — What good listening makes possible

07:07 — How comedy helps us question the scripts we take too seriously

09:46 — Why trying something badly can still help us grow

12:00 — Meredith reflects on creating across TV, radio, podcasts, digital work, and books

13:11 — How the book can become a bridge for friendship

14:35 — Dog wisdom, connection, and the most loving version of ourselves

"Get your hair wet" is really an invitation to stop guarding your look and join the moment.

Identity is not a one-time answer. It is a conversation we keep returning to.

Sometimes success is not the next step on a ladder. Sometimes it is helping someone feel seen enough to tell their story.

Comedy can help us loosen shame and make room for becoming.

Friendship helps us find ourselves more interesting.

Dogs remind us that connection does not always require perfect language.

This episode offers a gentle but powerful way to talk with young people about identity. Instead of asking them to simply "be themselves," we can help them build the habits that make self-understanding possible: reflection, curiosity, humor, friendship, storytelling, and care.

Meredith's work invites us to give young people better questions, not just better advice.

What would change if we treated "be yourself" not as a slogan, but as a practice?

Learn more about the summit mentioned at the top of the episode:

https://www.sidecarcounsel.com/

Connect with Bridget:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bridget-mcnamer/

Tricia Friedman speaks with Keala Kendall, author of That Which Feeds Us, a gothic novel that begins with a missing sister and opens into a larger conversation about Hawaii, diaspora, colonialism, memory, and the stories we are taught to accept about place.

Keala describes her writing process as a kind of "ingredient foraging." The novel began as the story of a diaspora girl returning to Hawaii for the first time to search for her missing twin sister. As Keala researched and followed the emotional truth of the story, she realized horror was not simply a genre choice. It was the form the story required.

For K–12 educators, this conversation offers a powerful way to think about place-based learning, media literacy, Indigenous histories, and the role of fiction in helping students ask better questions. Keala challenges the postcard version of Hawaii often shown in films, tourism campaigns, and popular culture. She asks readers to look at what gets hidden when a place is sold only as paradise.

Tricia and Keala also discuss horror as a serious literary form. Keala makes the case that horror can reveal what a society fears, what it refuses to confront, and what histories remain unresolved. Her description of history as "one big ghost story" offers a compelling frame for educators working with students on historical memory, colonialism, belonging, and power.

This episode is especially useful for educators interested in how speculative fiction can help students engage with difficult truths without reducing literature to a lesson plan. Keala is clear that That Which Feeds Us is entertainment first. But the book also invites readers to think more carefully about whose stories are amplified, whose are flattened, and what it means to be haunted by history.

This week, Tricia Friedman welcomes New York Times bestselling author Dr. Brittney Cooper to the podcast for a conversation about her new picture book, Mama Says I'm Fine.

Based largely on Cooper's own childhood, Mama Says I'm Fine is a heartwarming story about family, resilience, and the powerful force of a mother-daughter bond. The book carries Cooper's well-known feminist sensibility, offering young readers a story rooted in love, care, and empowerment.

In this conversation, Brittney shares the backstory behind the book and reflects on what it means to write from memory, to honor maternal love, and to create stories that speak to young girls with honesty and tenderness. Tricia and Brittney also discuss collaboration, including how picture books ask writers and illustrators to build meaning together.

The episode explores how a simple phrase like "I'm fine" can hold courage, reassurance, protection, and love, especially in the relationship between a mother and daughter.

Tricia and Brittney discuss:

The childhood memories that helped shape Mama Says I'm Fine

Why mother-daughter relationships can carry so much emotional meaning

How stories for young readers can hold both sweetness and strength

Writing girlhood through a feminist lens

The role of resilience in family stories

What it means to collaborate intentionally on a picture book

How children's books can speak to adults, too

Dr. Brittney Cooper is a New York Times bestselling author, professor, cultural critic, and public thinker. She is the author of several books, including Eloquent Rage: A Black Woman Discovers Her Superpowers, Feminist AF: A Guide to Crushing Girlhood, and her debut picture book Stand Up! 10 Mighty Women Who Made a Change.

She is a professor of Women's and Gender Studies and Africana Studies at Rutgers University and cofounder of the Crunk Feminist Collective. Her cultural commentary has appeared across major media outlets including MSNBC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, NPR, PBS, Essence, The Root, TED.com, and more. She has also been named four times to The Root 100.

Her newest picture book, Mama Says I'm Fine, is a story of love, resilience, family, and maternal care.

Bestselling author Patricia Cornwell joins Tricia Friedman to discuss True Crime: A Memoir, her deeply personal account of the life behind the books. Cornwell is known around the world for the Kay Scarpetta series, which has sold millions of copies and helped shape the modern forensic thriller. Her memoir, published by Grand Central Publishing on May 5, 2026, turns that same investigative intensity toward her own story.

In this conversation, Cornwell talks about why now was the moment to write a memoir, how difficult personal experiences shaped her career, and what it means to tell the truth on the page. She reflects on writing, survival, research, violence, and the kind of curiosity that keeps a creative life moving.

Tricia and Patricia Cornwell discuss:

The story behind True Crime: A Memoir

Why Cornwell chose to write about her own life now

How Kay Scarpetta changed the crime fiction landscape

The relationship between lived experience and fiction

Why curiosity matters to writers, investigators, and readers

How Cornwell thinks about truth, memory, research, and resilience

What readers may discover when they return to Scarpetta through the memoir

Get your copy of True Crime:

https://www.patriciacornwell.com/

Join Tricia Friedman Monday, May 4th for a free Futures Literacy session exploring the future of fun:

https://triciafriedman.com/futureoffun/