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B.A.S.I.C. Conversations

B.A.S.I.C. Conversations

By: Kevin Kelly
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B.A.S.I.C. Ministries podcast where Brother Boston brings you unfiltered conversations about transformation, faith, and what redemption really looks like. These are the stories of people who have been to the bottom, met God there and came back with something to say.

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  • Both Sides of the Bars
    Jan 28 2026



    B.A.S.I.C. Conversations - Episode 001: Oak Smith

    What happens when a formerly incarcerated man sits down with the warden who led the prison during his time inside?

    Host Brother Boston welcomes Oak Smith - former Acting Warden of San Quentin State Prison - for a raw conversation about faith, transformation, and second chances.

    Oak spent 27 years in California corrections. He shares how "checking his humanity at the gate" nearly destroyed him, why he played pickleball with incarcerated residents, and the moment he realized he'd been living as a "fake Christian" for 15 years.

    Brother Boston opens up about finding freedom in Christ while incarcerated and the anxiety of reentering society.

    Together, they explore the dehumanization on both sides of the bars, the mental health crisis among correctional officers, and what it means to live your faith when it's hardest.

    Two men. Two perspectives. One truth: transformation is possible.

    Guest: Oak Smith, former Acting Warden of San Quentin (retired Nov 2024)

    Host: Brother Boston, founder of B.A.S.I.C. Ministry, former San Quentin resident

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    34 mins
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