Host Paul Akin welcomes Pastor Chopo Mwanza of Faith Baptist Church Riverside in Kitwe, Zambia, for a conversation about gospel ministry and church life in Zambia. Mwanza introduces Zambia as a peaceful, diverse nation of more than 70 tribes and languages, where English serves as the official language and tribal divisions are often less pronounced in urban areas. He discusses Zambia’s identity as a “Christian nation,” highlighting both the opportunities it creates for gospel ministry and the challenges of nominal Christianity and syncretism. Mwanza also describes life in Kitwe, a Copperbelt mining city shaped by the rise and fall of the mining industry. Finally, he shares the story of Faith Baptist Church—from its founding by missionaries in 1993 to its transition to local leadership—and reflects on the challenges facing believers today, including syncretism, corruption, and the call to live with integrity.

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Doctorate of Missiology at Southern Seminary

Host Paul Akin interviews Jennifer Trafton about her book, If Only We Could See, highlighting missionary Lilias Trotter’s decades in North Africa and how she leveraged art and creativity for ministry. Trotter kept nearly daily illustrated journals for 40 years, shared them with supporters, and helped produce colorful Arabic publications shaped by the region’s visual language to help people “see” and therefore love and pray for the Arab people she loved. Trafton explains Trotter’s idea of a “beautiful possible life” marked by joyful adventure, surrender to the Spirit, and faithful, often hidden obedience rather than platform-driven success. The conversation emphasizes Trotter’s attentive compassion, her ability to dignify marginalized people by truly seeing them, and how studying her has shaped Trafton’s attentiveness, prayer for the Arab world, and perspective on calling.

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The Online PhD at Southern Seminary

https://www.sbts.edu/online-phd/

Her legacy was relational. Her legacy was people. People who felt seen and loved by her years later. Lilias Trotter lived what looked like a hidden and seemingly unsuccessful life, but she believed we are scattering seeds far beyond what we can see. ‘The harvest of the trivial and monotonous might lie out beyond the stars.’ We have no idea what God may do with our faithfulness long after our lifetime.

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The Doctor of Ministry

https://www.sbts.edu/degree-programs/doctor-of-ministry/