A conversation with Amy Smilovic and Frank Rizzieri. Frank is a celebrated editorial hairstylist, three-time North American Hairdresser of the Year, and the third-generation president of Rizzieri Salons, Spas, and Schools, a family beauty business his maternal grandfather founded in 1924 and that Frank has spent his career modernizing across three generations. The Rizzieri network now operates two flagship salons and spas in Moorestown and Washington Township, New Jersey, the Rizzieri Aveda School in Voorhees, employs more than 185 professionals, and serves over 150,000 clients annually. As an editorial hairstylist, his career has included long-standing runway collaborations with Tibi, Calvin Klein, Helmut Lang, and Cynthia Rowley, alongside work with celebrities including Paul McCartney and Elle Macpherson. Across his salons, schools, and franchise platform, Frank continues to actively shape the next generation of professionals in beauty. Throughout the episode, Amy and Frank reflect on more than two decades of working together - the inheritance of a family business and what it took to honor it by changing it, the moment during COVID when each of them had to redefine what they were fighting for, and the choice both made to build for agency rather than scale.

A conversation with Bobbi Brown and Amy Smilovic. Bobbi is a makeup artist, entrepreneur, New York Times bestselling author, and the founder and Chief Creative Officer of Jones Road Beauty, one of the fastest-growing independent beauty brands in the country. Founded in 2020 alongside her husband Steven Plofker, Jones Road operates under 100% family ownership, with her son Cody serving as CEO. Bobbi is the author of nine bestselling guides to makeup and beauty, and most recently her first memoir, Still Bobbi: Lessons on Building a Beautiful Life. The memoir traces Bobbi's career from her early years as a New York makeup artist through founding Bobbi Brown Cosmetics in 1991, building the brand into a billion-dollar global business under Estée Lauder, and her departure in 2016. Bobbi is also the co-owner of The George, an independent boutique hotel in Montclair, New Jersey. Throughout the episode, Amy and Bobbi reflect on the long arc of their careers - the corporate pressures of working within a brand that bears your name, the scrappy and instinctive origins of building something new, and the role of authenticity in the businesses that last.

A conversation with Amy Smilovic and Jeffrey Saad - Chef, Entrepreneur, Estate Director, and Author. Before Compass, where he and his wife Nadia were among the first six agents in California and now serve as Estate Directors in Beverly Hills, Jeffrey was building restaurants in San Francisco. He opened his first, Sweet Heat, at twenty-four, went on to become Chef/Partner of California's Pasta Pomodoro Italian Restaurants, and broke through nationally in 2009 as the first runner-up on The Next Food Network Star - a run that led to his own web series, Spice Smuggler, and later to United Tastes of America on The Cooking Channel. He's the author of the cookbook Jeffrey Saad's Global Kitchen, the host of The Circle Podcast, and his forthcoming book, The Reduction: How to Cultivate Joy and Build a Life Worth Savoring, arrives in a month.

Amy and Jeff grew up twenty miles apart outside Chicago, married partners who came to America from somewhere else, and built their businesses on the same philosophical scaffolding without ever comparing notes. They get into the personal constitution Jeff wrote at twenty-three and still reads every morning, the difference between first principles, opinions, and tactics, why the burnt edges are what make the steak taste good, and what it actually means to reduce - to distill a life down to the ingredients that matter and refuse the rest. They talk about the trap of storytelling, the gap between incident and reaction, the kind of leadership that refuses to be efficient with people, and what is gained by walking forward instead of looking back. It's a conversation about joy as a discipline rather than a disposition - and about what happens when two people who chose to reduce land at the same table.