Welcome back to Agency Intensive, hosted by Richard Hill, where we dive into the realities of running and scaling successful agencies. In this episode, Joshua Grant, Managing Director of Absolute Design, offers a candid, insightful look at how the agency landscape has evolved over the past 18 months. Together, they explore how agencies can thrive in times of market uncertainty, win client trust, and find opportunities amidst economic pressures.

You'll hear discussion on the rising importance of simplifying tech stacks, identifying and eliminating wasted spend and maximising value from the tools you’re already paying for. They dig into the practical ways agencies are leveraging AI for operations and reporting, while recognising its limits, and reveal how to truly become a trusted advisor to your clients.

Whether you’re looking to tighten operations, deepen client relationships, or future-proof your agency in a noisy market, this episode is packed with relatable stories, actionable insights, and the latest trends straight from the agency frontline.

“Ego Is the Enemy”

Welcome to another episode of eCom@One with Richard Hill! In today’s conversation, Richard Hill sits down with Anthony Barone, co-founder of Studio Hawk and the driving force behind their UK expansion. Anthony Barone shares the remarkable journey of going from a career in hospitality to scaling Studio Hawk from a small Australian team into an international SEO powerhouse with offices in Melbourne, Sydney, London, and Atlanta.

You’ll hear candid stories about rapid growth, building a company culture across continents, and why niche focus has been their biggest lever in sales and partnerships. Anthony Barone also opens up about the role of AI and large language models in the changing SEO landscape—and why mastering the fundamentals is now more important than ever.

Whether you’re running an agency, building your own team, or just curious about the intersection of search, growth, and technology, this episode is packed with hard-won lessons, real-world advice, and a glimpse into what’s next for Studio Hawk. Let’s dive in!

00:00 "Falling Into SEO Career"

05:23 "Building Studiohawk From Scratch"

09:26 Scaling Sales for SEO Success

11:48 "Power of Specialism in Events"

14:03 Shoreditch Cool Commerce Event

17:45 "Building Networks Through Events"

23:12 "Advice for UK Agencies Expanding"

23:55 "Preparation for US Expansion"

26:56 "Planning International Business Expansion"

30:12 "Follow Core Values Intentionally"

35:25 "SEO Opportunities in the AI Era"

38:26 Navigating Marketing Challenges Efficiently

39:55 Shopify, Universal Protocol, Ads Update

43:22 "Ego Is the Enemy" Recommendation

In this episode of Agency Intensive, Richard Hill sits down with Mads Singer, agency trainer and management consultant who's helped hundreds of teams move from founder-led delivery to repeatable, scalable operations.

Mads breaks down why most brilliant SEOs stay stuck at the same revenue level year after year, what the "superhero syndrome" really costs your business, and the exact hiring sequence that prevents you from becoming the bottleneck. He explains the four business buckets every agency needs to master, why you should pick ONE marketing channel and go deep, and how to build repeatable SEO processes that scale.

The conversation covers the three critical growth stages where most agencies get stuck (0-10, 10-25, and 25-50+ people), why writing SOPs yourself is killing your time, and how to hire specialists instead of trying to clone yourself. Mads shares real examples, including the roofing SEO who 3x'd his business in 12 months by going to industry events, and breaks down what it really takes to build a sellable, scalable agency.

If you're a talented SEO stuck in delivery or an agency owner trying to break through revenue plateaus, this episode gives you the exact steps to scale without burning out.

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**Topics Covered**

00:00 Introduction

02:07 Why talented SEOs struggle to scale

03:13 Mads' background: From IBM to agency consulting

07:03 The four business buckets: Sales, marketing, operations, finance

08:04 The superhero syndrome killing your growth

13:38 Finding your ONE marketing channel

18:05 The roofing SEO case study: 3x growth in 12 months

20:36 Sponsor: Aristo Sourcing

21:38 Key hires for scaling from 5 to 20+ people

24:30 Building culture with your first hires

28:24 SOPs: What the gurus get wrong

34:34 Leadership challenges scaling £1M to £5M

35:05 Three growth stages where agencies get stuck

46:31 Starting an SEO agency from scratch today

47:19 The ONE process framework

50:02 Breaking down processes for specialization

51:40 Hiring specialists vs. cloning yourself

53:26 Book recommendation: First, Break All the Rules

54:14 Where to find Mads Singer