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ABA on Tap

ABA on Tap

By: Mike Rubio BCBA and Dan Lowery BCBA
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Taking Applied Behavior Analysis from its pure form in the laboratory, and serving it up, in easy to consume discussion, about all matters behavior, in the living room. Pour yourself a nice, tall glass. Sit back, relax and always analyze responsibly.© 2023 ABA on Tap Hygiene & Healthy Living Parenting & Families Psychology Psychology & Mental Health Relationships Science Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Skittles, A Rubik’s Cube, And The ABA Rabbit Hole: A Sip and A Candid Chat with Asia Johnson (Part I)
    Jun 28 2026

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    ABA on Tap is proud to present Asia Johnson (Part 1 of 2):

    A two-pound baby in the NICU. A young mom in a demanding academic track. Years of sleepless nights, confusing behaviors, and a system full of waitlists and half-answers. Asia Johnson joins us to share the throughline that connects all of it-- learning how to advocate for her daughter, and then bringing that same urgency and empathy into the ABA field as an RBT and later a BCBA.

    In this pour of ABA on Tap, Mike, Dan and Asia get real about what families feel after an autism diagnosis, especially when the people around them do not understand ASD, and when community stigma makes support harder to access. Asia breaks down why the five stages of grief are not just theory, but a practical tool for parent support and for clinicians who want to teach skills without ignoring the emotional load caregivers carry. We also talk about acceptance as a daily practice: redefining happiness, building structure, and choosing goals that protect dignity and independence.

    From masking and stimming to school accommodations and powerful self-advocacy, Asia gives vivid examples of what growing up autistic can look like for a level one pre-teen. Then we dig into culturally responsive ABA: dialect, identity, and why therapy must meet a child where they are rather than sanding down culture to fit a narrow idea of “proper.” Finally, Asia shares what she has seen when ABA goes wrong and why ethical leadership has to interrupt harmful clinic cultures before they reproduce.

    Enjoy this first pour, return for part 2, share this with a parent or clinician who needs it, subscribe and leave a review with your take. Tell us---what should ethical ABA protect first?

    Tune in, drink up and ALWAYS analyze responsibly.

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    1 hr
  • Truth Telling and Good Hiring in ABA: A Couple of Drinks with Holli Beth Clauser (Part II)
    Jun 21 2026

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    ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 2 of 2):

    Grab a comfortable seat and get ready for your second pour of truth telling and good hiring.

    "They’re just RBTs” might be the most expensive sentence an ABA organization can say. We sit down with Holli Beth Clauser to talk about truth telling, good hiring, and what happens when companies optimize for speed and margin while ignoring training, retention, and the human reality of autism services delivered in a family’s home.

    We dig into the hidden costs of turnover in applied behavior analysis: paid onboarding time, unstaffed cases, added BCBA supervision load, inconsistent sessions, and the reputational damage that follows. From there we get into the messy “soup” leaders actually face, balancing living wages, competitive market pay, and insurance reimbursement rates, plus the pressure to keep profit margins high. We also challenge the industry’s obsession with blanket hour recommendations and talk about what it means to “prescribe” ABA therapy with real clinical reasoning and empirical humility.

    Then we shift into what to do about it. Holli breaks down how to reduce silos between clinical leadership and talent teams through visibility, feedback loops, and accountability, and why “vibe check” interviews quietly bake bias into your hiring. You’ll hear a practical interview question you can steal, simple ways to create belonging through specific reinforcement, and a powerful reminder that protocols are for people, not the other way around. We also cover BCBA burnout and realistic career pivots, plus Holli’s personal diagnostic journey and what it taught her about communication, systems, and support.

    If you care about ethical ABA, RBT retention, sustainable growth, and better outcomes for kids and families, hit subscribe, share this with a leader on your team, and leave a review so more clinicians can find the conversation.

    Tune in, drink up AND ALWAYS ANALYZE RESPONSIBLY.

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    📢 Connect with Us:
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    🎧 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aba.on.tap.podcast

    📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abaontap/
    🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ABAonTap
    💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aba-on-tap

    💡 Support the Show:
    ☕ Love what we do? Buy us a virtual drink! Support ABA on Tap
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    53 mins
  • Truth Telling and Good Hiring in ABA: A Couple of Drinks with Holli Beth Clauser (Part I)
    Jun 14 2026

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    ABA on Tap is proud to present Holli Beth Clauser (Part 1 of 2):

    Grab a comfortable seat and a tasty libation. There is a lot of introspection to be had in this pour.

    Your turnover number might look like a business problem, but it’s really a human systems problem. We sit down with Holly Beth Clauser to unpack why ABA organizations keep bleeding great RBTs, why families lose trust when staffing churn never stops, and what changes actually improve recruitment, onboarding, and retention without burning people out.

    We start with Holli’s origin story and how her frontline experience shaped the way she thinks about the workforce. From there, we get practical about the gaps between clinical work, scheduling, HR, and executives. We talk about SOPs and metrics as a shared language, but we keep coming back to the part most dashboards miss: the context behind the number. Cancellations, inconsistent hours, and “culture” issues rarely come from one person being lazy. They’re usually signals that the environment isn’t reinforcing the right behaviors.

    Then we go straight at the hiring process. Overselling roles, overpromising hours, and avoiding hard conversations about aggression, travel, cancellations, and documentation creates the exact churn everyone complains about later. Holly shares how she interviews for boundaries and triggers, why function should guide HR responses, and why practical de-escalation and self-regulation training often matters more in the first 60 days than jargon-heavy onboarding.

    If you care about treatment continuity, staff wellbeing, and sustainable ABA services, hit play, share this with a leader in your orbit, and subscribe so you don’t miss Part 2. After you listen, what’s one change you’d make to improve RBT retention at your organization? Holli Beth Clauser will guide you in this episode.

    Tune In, Drink Up, and ALWAYS ANALYZE RESPONSIBLY.

    Support the show

    🔥 Enjoyed this episode? Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review on your favorite podcast platform!

    📢 Connect with Us:
    🔗 Website: https://abaontap.com
    🎧 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aba.on.tap.podcast

    📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abaontap/
    🎥 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ABAonTap
    💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aba-on-tap

    💡 Support the Show:
    ☕ Love what we do? Buy us a virtual drink! Support ABA on Tap
    🎙️ Interested in sponsoring? Partner with us

    🚀 Join the ABA on Tap Community! Stay updated on the latest episodes, live events, and exclusive content.

    🎧 Analyze Responsibly & Keep the Conversation Going! 🍻

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    1 hr and 1 min
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