In this episode of Elevate with Mets, Mets sits down with Jaz to reflect on nearly three decades in the fitness industry — from opening Titan Fitness Rockdale 28 years ago, to running three gyms at once, to building the Titan of today in Coogee. Mets shares the lessons that only come from doing every job in the building: cleaner, instructor, trainer, front of house, back of house, and everything in between.

They dive into:

- Why doing every job ("working in the weeds") shapes who you become

- How the fitness industry — and how people see fitness — has changed in the social media era

- Earning respect as a 21-year-old gym owner, and learning from his brother Murat

- The truth about bodybuilding and competing (and why feeling good beats shredding for the stage)

- Building Titan for everyone: the gym floor, The Underground, Reformer Pilates, Rhythm Cycling, Hyrox, Engine & Power

- "We'll meet you where you are" — fitness as an individual journey

- The story behind SUPPSTANCE and why quality and less is more

- What people still get wrong about fitness: the quick fix vs. the long game

This episode is about patience, reinvention and the long game — and proof that consistency over decades is what actually wins.

🎙️ Available now on YouTube, Spotify & Apple Podcasts.

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