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The Thirty Years War

Europe's Tragedy

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The Thirty Years War

By: Peter H. Wilson
Narrated by: Matthew Waterson
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The Thirty Years War devastated seventeenth-century Europe, killing nearly a quarter of all Germans and laying waste to towns and countryside alike. Peter Wilson offers the first new history in a generation of a horrifying conflict that transformed the map of the modern world.

When defiant Bohemians tossed the Habsburg emperor's envoys from the castle windows in Prague in 1618, the Holy Roman Empire struck back with a vengeance. Bohemia was ravaged by mercenary troops in the first battle of a conflagration that would engulf Europe from Spain to Sweden. The sweeping narrative encompasses dramatic events and unforgettable individuals—the sack of Magdeburg; the Dutch revolt; the Swedish militant king Gustavus Adolphus; the imperial generals, Wallenstein and Tilly; and diplomat Cardinal Richelieu. In a major reassessment, Wilson argues that religion was not the catalyst, but one element in a lethal stew of political, social, and dynastic forces that fed the conflict.

By war's end a recognizably modern Europe had been created, but at what price? The Thirty Years War condemned the Germans to two centuries of internal division and international impotence and became a benchmark of brutality for centuries. As late as the 1960s, Germans placed it ahead of both world wars and the Black Death as their country's greatest disaster.

©2009 Peter H. Wilson (P)2023 Tantor
17th Century Europe Military Modern War Royalty

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First of all, this is about as comprehensive a history of the 30 years war as you’re going to get. It starts in the 1500s, and you have to accept the war doesn’t actually start until 1/3 of the way in, or 11 hours. That’s quite a long preamble. The author clearly knows his stuff, my only reservations being (a) the sheer amount of detail, and (b) the constant criticism of other historians for interpreting things wrong.

The choice of narrator was interesting, with a whimsical delivery perhaps more suited to pg Wodehouse than a bloody war, and his pronunciations verged on the eccentric - “papal” to rhyme with “apple”, and many more.

Exhaustive history, slightly eccentric narrator

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But for a few inevitable slips with pronunciation, the narrator's reading is very good, but i realised after a couple of hours that i really want to be looking at maps sometimes while I'm listening. Some books come with an accompanying PDF, and this is an obvious case where that would be very helpful. I don't need pictures of the main characters involved (which i would expect to find in the book), as i can just google for those, but MAPS i do need.

Anyway, the writing is good and the narration is good. Obviously i wouldn't have bought this book if i thought that the subject was completely dry and boring, but then again some would say so! The way it's narrated - trust me - it doesn't feel like that.

Good narration, but I want ***MAPS***

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Wonderfully detailed account of this great tragedy. A war with few winners and many losers. A lesson to all yet to be learned.

Superb!

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As others have pointed out, the narration is so bad it hurts to listen to it. so many names are mangled.

Awful narration

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This is inevitably a hard listen because of the subject matter. The author is covering an enormous field with multiple characters and action, including manoeuvres and battles across a huge part of Europe. Nevertheless, the author is so competent that it is worth the difficult listen.

However now to the great weakness of listening to non-fiction books on Audible: the narration. In this case the narrator is exceptionally poor. He has not researched the pronunciation of proper nouns effectively. To say that his mispronunciation of proper nouns is appalling is a huge understatement. Mainz becomes Manse, Holstein becomes Holsteen, Compiegne becomes Compain, etc, etc, etc. He even manages to begin the word Thuringia in German and finishes it in English - Toorinjia. Common nouns don't escape either and his pronunciation is frequently idiosyncratic. His most egregious mispronunciation here is to say "papple" whenever confronted with the word "papal". You will gather that I have found listening to such a long and difficult book while confronted by such poor narration has been extremely challenging, and more than once I have been tempted to give up in frustration. Why the narrators of audio books are so poorly vetted and edited amazes me, and why someone employed in this privileged position does not do a more professional job is also astonishing.

The narrator is appalling

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