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The Path of Daggers

Wheel of Time, Book 8
Series: Wheel of Time, Book 8
Length: 23 hrs and 25 mins
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Summary

The Wheel of Time is a PBS Great American Read Selection! Now in development for TV! Since its debut in 1990, the Wheel of Time by Robert Jordan has captivated millions of readers and listeners around the globe with its scope, originality, and compelling characters.

The Wheel of Time turns and Ages come and go, leaving memories that become legend. Legend fades to myth, and even myth is long forgotten when the Age that gave it birth returns again. In the Third Age, an Age of Prophecy, the World and Time themselves hang in the balance. What was, what will be, and what is, may yet fall under the Shadow. 

The Seanchan invasion force is in possession of Ebou Dar. Nynaeve, Elayne, and Aviendha head for Caemlyn and Elayne's rightful throne, but on the way they discover an enemy much worse than the Seanchan.

In Illian, Rand vows to throw the Seanchan back as he did once before. But signs of madness are appearing among the Asha'man.

In Ghealdan, Perrin faces the intrigues of Whitecloaks, Seanchan invaders, the scattered Shaido Aiel, and the Prophet himself. Perrin's beloved wife, Faile, may pay with her life, and Perrin himself may have to destroy his soul to save her.

Meanwhile the rebel Aes Sedai under their young Amyrlin, Egwene al'Vere, face an army that intends to keep them away from the White Tower. But Egwene is determined to unseat the usurper Elaida and reunite the Aes Sedai. She does not yet understand the price that others - and she herself - will pay. 

TV series update: "Sony will produce along with Red Eagle Entertainment and Radar Pictures. Rafe Judkins is attached to write and executive produce. Judkins previously worked on shows such as ABC’s 'Agents of SHIELD,' the Netflix series 'Hemlock Grove,' and the NBC series 'Chuck.' Red Eagle partners Rick Selvage and Larry Mondragon will executive produce along with Radar’s Ted Field and Mike Weber. Darren Lemke will also executive produce, with Jordan’s widow Harriet McDougal serving as consulting producer." (Variety)

The Wheel of Time:

  • New Spring: The Novel
  1. The Eye of the World
  2. The Great Hunt
  3. The Dragon Reborn
  4. The Shadow Rising
  5. The Fires of Heaven
  6. Lord of Chaos
  7. A Crown of Swords
  8. The Path of Daggers
  9. Winter's Heart
  10. Crossroads of Twilight
  11. Knife of Dreams 
  12. The Gathering Storm
  13. Towers of Midnight
  14. A Memory of Light

By Robert Jordan and Teresa Patterson:

  • The World of Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time

By Robert Jordan, Harriet McDougal, Alan Romanczuk, and Maria Simons:

  • The Wheel of Time Companion

By Robert Jordan and Amy Romanczuk:

  • Patterns of the Wheel: Coloring Art Based on Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time 
Keep it turning: download more titles in the Wheel of Time saga.
©1998 The Bandersnatch Group, Inc. (P)2008 Macmillan Audio

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Not as bad as expected

If you're reading this, it's probably too late to stop now. The book is distinctly "above average" compared to books 1-7. Very important things happen here, with very little stupidity, relatively speaking. If I didn't know better, I might suspect that Robert Jordan decided to embrace character development.

What he also embraced are way more words than the story deserves, as usual.

There are few action scenes though and the ending is not as impressive as the previous ones. It snuck up on me. When I heard "the last chapter", I had to pause and check if it was a metaphor.


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Book 8 is better than people say, but as usual, half of it is still boring. You will read it anyway. You've come too far to give up now.

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8 down...

Would you recommend this audiobook to a friend? If so, why?

I would recommend this series for anyone looking to make a BIG commitment to a single fantasy world

What did you like best about this story?

the huge expansive arc over the series

Have you listened to any of Michael Kramer and Kate Reading ’s other performances? How does this one compare?

Michael Kramer has also done the mist born series. very good

Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

NO WAY!

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Mid-Slump

The performance is great as usual and has remained consistent throughout the series. Unfortunately, this is in the middle of the infamous mid-series slump and pertinent chapters are interspersed throughout so many fillers which really hurts the pacing.

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Taking it further

The story proceeds, sometimes it goes very slow with a bit to detailed descriptions of characters not to relevant to the story and the book not moving forward.

Great job by the narrators, i like thats it's one male and one female and they both make the characters come alive.

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struggled through some chapters

I'm up to book 9 so the books are decent but I just feel some of the chapters were starting to get drawn out and I felt like I was dragged through the last part of the book. hopefully it will pick up again.

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Slow but good

Great characters and story but needs to get a move on. If the wheel of time was made into 4000 pages say 10 books of 400 pages each I think it would be one of the best fantasy epics ever because I'm sure it puts some people off, it put me off for about 10 years because I had that many things I wanted to read. Saying that though I suppose that's part of what makes it what it is. Only 6 books to go, got to get it finished before the TV series starts!

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Excellent!

Excellent continuation of this series, all the characters are included here so we get to catch up with all of them.

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Good book

Really enjoying the wheel of time books so much, there greats I can't get enough of them

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Arduous

Very different style evident here, character development is surely important but entire swathes of this book seemed mere padding.

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what the hell is wrong here?

so first of all, wheel of time is an epic series and I'm loving it. BUT, this book and the last book, the editting has been getting worse and worse! to the point were I am pretty sure the last chapter is missing? Audible, not sure how I complain but I'll figure that out later. now I have to find an copy of the actual book and check... may stop buying the audiobook copy from here on in as a review for book 9 says the same thing. Very disappointed..

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  • Anonymous User
  • 13-08-19

Barely anything happens

Here I am 2 books later and almost 50 hours later and the plot has barely progressed. A full trilogy could have been completed in the time it too to get through Crown of Thorns and Path of Dagger. I'm committed but I really hope it gets better soon, less sniffing and clothing description and some actual story progression.

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  • Grizzo40
  • 03-11-18

The start of the doldrums...

It's at this point in the series where the plot progression starts to slip. The most significant event of the book happens pretty early on, and while we get to see its impact over the rest of the book, those events don't really seem all that significant. Egwene's story line could have been streamlined quite a bit, and the caravan of women gets so little accomplished traveling, when they could have just Traveled and spared us all the drawn-out details.

Most significantly, it's with this book that some of the repetitive phrases and descriptions really stand out. The smoothing of dresses and folding of arms is almost ludicrous.

Even knowing that the next book is pretty Perrin-heavy, I always want more of his story than I get, and that's certainly true here. Mat is completely absent, which is okay, since he still has a while before his story stops being frustrating anyway.

Rand. Ugh. His arc might be necessary for the ultimate endgame, but it's really hard to like his character in the middle books. The scenes with him but from Min's point of view are always better than the ones from his own.

Despite these issues, the book goes by pretty smoothly, although it's more about what it hints at for the future than for anything that's actually contained here. We've set up several really interesting conflicts in this book that will eventually pay off really awesomely. It's just a shame that the setup was so unremarkable, relatively speaking. I still love the series, but this book isn't among the best.

As for the listening experience, there were a few weirdly mispronounced words here and there, but overall it was excellent. I'm concerned that by the time I finish the series I won't be able to listen to any other narrators because I'll simply associate audiobooks with these two voices.

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  • CJ
  • 08-11-18

unrelated fluff

This book was just very disappointing after the climax of the last book. I found myself waiting for things that just never really fell into place.

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  • Anonymous User
  • 28-07-18

Having trouble with lots of words, and no point.

This book may be the last I read in the series. How many times is the author going to use the phrases "...smoothing her split skirts..." It's like a middle schooler trying to extend a too short essay.

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  • Greg
  • 25-06-17

This is where the story bogs down

Would you try another book from Robert Jordan and/or Michael Kramer and Kate Reading ?

If you've made it this far, you're already committed.

What do you think your next listen will be?

Next book in the same series, I guess

Have you listened to any of Michael Kramer and Kate Reading ’s other performances before? How does this one compare?

Yes, this one is just as good. They are really good.

Was Path of Daggers worth the listening time?

No, not worth the time. About 1/3 is worth listening to, the rest is bloated drivel. Jordan thinks we care about exactly what every character is wearing, in every scene. Purists might call this "world-building." The other 98% of us call it a waste of time.

Any additional comments?

So this is the book where I quit on Jordan 16 years ago initially. This story (books 1-4) starts out really great, and Jordan has some really top notch moments. But Path of Daggers man...Jordan really sucks with his female POV. Every female character has some over-arching personality trait that is super obnoxious, and he never ever deviates from that in any scene. His characters in general often feel like robots, just spouting off the same lines, giving the same glares, stares, etc in every. single. scene. Like i mentioned, the female POV's are particularly rough, and this book is loaded with storylines from the female characters. Blah. I literally find myself wanting Nynaeve, Faile, and at least 1/3 of the Aes Sedai to die. The dark one can have Perrin too. Wonder if we could trade those for the deaths of a few forsaken? I'd take that trade and I think the story would be much more tolerable.

I am going to continue listening to the series (at 1.75 speed) only because Brandon Sanderson finished the series and my brother said he crushed it. On to book 9! Can't wait for more descriptions of dresses!!

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  • Ivan Kvapil
  • 11-03-16

Wheel of Meh

This book felt a lot like filler plain and simple, a few things happened but overall it felt like things remained static

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  • Nick Damato
  • 14-10-17

Very disappointed in this book

This is by far the weakest book in the series so far. Book 7 was starting to show the signs but I was so disappointed with this book that I felt compelled to write a review. While I actually appreciate Jordan's presentation of slower-paced, immersive books he seems to take this to a new art here. The pacing is inconsistent, he may spend 2 pages detailing a party walking through a portal in one section and 2 sentences in another. The story timing was disjointed it was more difficult than usual to figure out where in the timeline the section was occurring. Most of that is forgivable but this book just did not move the plot forward enough given the time invested. It's more than 90% people moving around thinking to themselves and probably less than 10% plot progress. Book 7 and 8 could have been easily combined into one book. A major set of antagonists is virtually missing throughout the entire book while excessive detail is wasted on some minor antagonists. Again, I like slow paced immersive books but there's a minimum of plot development that I expect per book and that was not achieved here. Bottom line: it's still worth reading but less enjoyable that earlier books. I was relieved when I finished.

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  • MNFishman
  • 02-07-19

It's finally over!

As I am 8 books in, I'm committed to the story, but this book was painful. NOTHING HAPPENED, but it sure took a long time for it to pass! Mind numbing descriptions of pointless details weaved with swirling lists of characters I couldn't remember and cared even less about. Here's hoping #9 picks up the real story again.

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  • Mr. L
  • 12-02-19

Torture

I'm not about to suffer anymore until Brandon Sanderson can take over. Yeah screw that, I'm dropping this garbage. DO NOT LISTEN TO ANYONE WHO RECOMMENDS WHEEL OF TIME.

Seriously, it started off pretty good but now the formula is filled with so much fluff that not all I'm thinking is: who the fck cares? Who are these people, why should we care, why are we still discussing random made-up servant number 300.

It's like that from books 5-now. And probably continues this way. It's boring, terrible writing: fluff. Please authors, listen to this reader and listener: THIS IS WHAT NOT TO DO. I'm not getting your book to fall asleep.

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  • Jason Hird
  • 28-03-17

Mat isn't in it!

What disappointed you about Path of Daggers?

Almost nothing happened of interest in this entire book. Mat isn't in it at all even though the end of book 7 has him in an interesting situation. Seriously the witches move their plot forward, Rand thinks he's crazy, Perrin's wife gets caught at the end. That is really all you need to know happened. Worst book in the series at this point. I was left constantly thinking get to the point! Stop describing the stupid dress give me information that will actually do a damn thing in the 15 plots you already have happening.

What do you think your next listen will be?

Ready Player One.

If you could play editor, what scene or scenes would you have cut from Path of Daggers?

Cut almost the entire opening until the bowl is used. Then jump to where the meeting with the nobles happens.

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