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Conservation and Science

Conservation and Science

By: Tommy's Outdoors
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 Are you tired of one-sided narratives about nature and conservation? Simplified takes that ignore the nuance and complexity of matters? This show brings you diverse perspectives on environmental stories, examining their ecological, social and political dimensions. Listen and become a well-rounded voice, empowered to foster dialogue and create change. I'm Tommy Serafinski and this is the Conservation and Science podcast, where we take a deep dive into topics of ecology, conservation and human-wildlife interactions (which, in most cases, means human-wildlife conflict). I talk with world-class scientists, members of environmental organisations, practical conservationists, farmers, nature writers, and last but not least, hunters and anglers. My conversations cover biodiversity, conservation, hunting and fishing, rewilding and more. Start with the acclaimed episode 163, “The EU Review of Wolf Protection Status.” It’s the perfect introduction to what this podcast has to offer.Copyright 2026 Tommy Serafinski Biological Sciences Science
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  • 224: Conservation Labour with Anwesha Dutta and Nick Harvey Sky

    224: Conservation Labour with Anwesha Dutta and Nick Harvey Sky
    Mar 31 2026
    Working in conservation? Take the survey: CONLAB surveyWho are the people doing the actual work of conservation? How many of them are there and what are their working conditions? And whose labour remains invisible in the process? These are not questions that conservation science has spent much time on. Yet without understanding the people behind the work, we lack a complete picture of how conservation functions and who it affects. Today, we take on this largely neglected subject with Dr Anwesha Dutta, principal investigator and project lead of CONLAB (Conservation Labor Project), and Dr Nick Harvey Sky, postdoctoral researcher on the project. Their work sits at the intersection of political ecology and conservation science, and their work is opening up an entirely new line of inquiry.During our conversation, Anwesha and Nick explain how labour theory can offer important insights into conservation. We discuss the power dynamics between employers and workers, the role of unpaid work, and how race, class and gender shape who gets opportunities in the sector. We also talk about the global survey they are running to capture the big picture of conservation labour worldwide. Nick explains why the survey casts a wide net, seeking responses not just from rangers and biologists but also from IT staff, hotel workers, farmers and anyone whose work supports conservation in some capacity. In fact, one of the aims of the project is to challenge our assumptions about who counts as a conservationist.We also get into some difficult but necessary territory. Anwesha shares her fieldwork experiences from national parks in India, where a ranger told her that if a ranger is hurt it takes two days to get medical help, but if a rhino is hurt a helicopter arrives instantly. We discuss the militarisation of conservation, the commodification of nature, and the troubling reality that in many parts of the world conservation labour is informal, seasonal and precarious. Nick talks about the so-called 'passion tax', where love for nature is exploited to justify poor pay and conditions. Both guests leave us with a clear message: conservation must be compassionate, careful, and embedded in an ethics of care for people and for the planet.Further reading:An international scoping review of rangers’ precarious employment conditions | Environment Systems and Decisions | Springer Nature LinkAn Exceptional Strike: A Micro-history of 'People versus Park' in MadagascarThe Low-Wage Conservationist: Biodiversity and Perversities of Value in MadagascarConservation labour geographies: Subsuming regional labour into private conservation spaces in South AfricaPsychological distress and workplace risk inequalities among conservation professionalsSupporting conservationists’ mental health through better working conditionsNot Just Participation: The Rise of the Eco-Precariat in the Green EconomyLabour perspectives on frontline conservation work | Current ConservationSubscribe to Tommy's Outdoors: Conservation and Science NewsletterSupport the Podcast and Buy Me a Coffee.Follow Tommy's Outdoors on Bluesky, Instagram or YouTube
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  • SCOTLAND: The Big Picture | Podcasthon 2026

    SCOTLAND: The Big Picture | Podcasthon 2026
    Mar 17 2026

    What does it take to bring wild nature back to a country that has forgotten what it looks like? Can rewilding truly benefit local communities and rural economies or does it come at their expense? And is Scotland really thirty years behind the rest of Europe when it comes to restoring its landscapes? This is a Podcasthon episode and this year I've chosen SCOTLAND: The Big Picture as my featured charity. Founded by nature photographers and filmmakers it has grown from a single employee to a team of twenty-four in just a few years. Today I'm joined by Lisa Chilton, CEO, and Steph Lauer, Rewilding Training Lead.

    Lisa and Steph walk us through the extraordinary scope of what SCOTLAND: The Big Picture has built. At the heart of it all is the Northwoods Rewilding Network, a string of over a hundred land partners spanning the country from the Solway Firth to Shetland. The research backing this work is striking. Rewilded sites within the network have recorded more than 250% more bird species and a tenfold increase in pollinator abundance compared to control sites that weren’t rewilded. Beyond the network, the Loch Hourn Mòr project brings together fourteen landowners across 120,000 acres, working to a fifty-year vision that stretches from the summit of Ben Nevis right down to seagrass beds and native oysters on the seafloor.

    Our conversation also covers the long and careful effort to bring lynx back to Scotland. Lisa explains how Lynx to Scotland, a partnership involving SCOTLAND: The Big Picture, Trees for Life, and the Lifescape Project, has spent years engaging over fifty national stakeholder organisations and is now conducting one-to-one consultations in the communities most likely to be affected by any future release. The process is slow and deliberate. But as Steph puts it, the question is really about what kind of ecosystem we want to leave for the next generation. On that front, the ambition and the optimism coming from Lisa and Steph are genuinely infectious.

    Further reading:

    • Working to return lynx to northern Scotland | Lynx to Scotland
    • Rewilding training | SCOTLAND: The Big Picture
    • The Big Picture Conference | SCOTLAND: The Big Picture
    • Donate | SCOTLAND: The Big Picture
    • Our Big Picture Community | SCOTLAND: The Big Picture

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  • 223: Waters of Life with Tom Bowser

    223: Waters of Life with Tom Bowser
    Mar 10 2026

    What happens when a farming family decides to become the first private landowner in Britain to legally relocate beavers onto their farm? How do you navigate the bureaucracy, the opposition from farming neighbours and the politics of wildlife management? And can beavers actually help a farm deal with the effects of climate change? To find answers to those questions I sat down with Tom Bowser, author of “Waters of Life: Fighting for Scotland's Beavers”, a book that tells the story of his journey from a self-described placid pacifist to a self-proclaimed radical fighting for beaver restoration.

    Tom's family has farmed at Argaty in central Scotland since 1916, running the farm with two aims: producing food sustainably and making it as good a home as possible for nature. From the 2000s, beaver escapes or unlicensed releases led to a wild beaver population in Tayside, much of it on prime arable farmland where they were often unpopular with farmers. The Scottish government gave them protected status in 2019 but also handed out lethal control licences with alarming ease. In the first year alone, one in five beavers of Scotland's tiny population was killed under licence. When Tom was approached about rehoming beavers that would otherwise be shot, he stepped into a process that tested his patience, his relationships with farming neighbours and his faith in the system.

    During our conversation, Tom shares hard-won lessons about bridging the divide between farmers and conservationists. We talk about the tribal dynamics that make these discussions so difficult and the importance of speaking to people like normal human beings rather than talking down to them. Tom also describes the real, measurable benefits beavers have brought to his farm, from reduced flood damage to water retention during heatwave summers. Tom's story is a reminder that restoring nature and producing food don't have to be an either-or proposition. Do yourself a favour and buy 'Waters of Life: Fighting for Scotland's Beavers' using the link below.

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    The guest featured in this episode paid a nominal guesting fee. This fee did not directly influence the content of the episode. The guest had no editorial control, did not review the episode before publication, and did not influence the questions asked during the interview.
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