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  • Faith for People Who Don't Like Religion (or Atheism)
  • By: Frank Schaeffer
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  • Length: 7 hrs and 32 mins
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Summary

Frank Schaeffer has a problem with Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris, Dennett, and the rest of the New Atheists—the self-anointed “Brights”. He also has a problem with the Rick Warrens and Tim LaHayes of the world—the religious fundamentalists. The problem is that he doesn’t see much of a difference between the two camps. As Schaeffer puts it, they “often share the same fallacy: truth claims that reek of false certainties. I believe that there is an alternative that actually matches the way life is lived rather than how we usually talk about belief.”

Sparing no one and nothing, including himself and his fiery evangelical past, and invoking subtleties too easily ignored by the pontificators, Schaeffer adds much-needed nuance to the existing religious conversation. “I discovered from the emails I’ve been inundated with since my memoir was published that there are more of us perplexed former (or currently) religiously inclined or religiously raised folks on a journey from past certainties to points unknown than I’d been aware of. We want to have faith in God in spite of our bad experiences with religion, oppressive family relationships, and/or doubts and questions. We too worry that we have been hoodwinked by a fairy tale. I hope that this audiobook will provide a meeting place for those of us who count ourselves among the scattered members of what I’ll call the Church of Hopeful Uncertainty."

©2009 FrankSchaeffer (P)2010 Gildan Media Corp

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“Frank Schaeffer is a patient writer, but a passionate one too. This beautiful, argumentative, and even funny audiobook is popular theology at its best, an explanation of tradition and its absence from a man who has lived both, a writer who knows better than most that God—whether you do or don’t believe—is always a brilliant story.” (Jeff Sharlet, New York Times best-selling author of The Family)
"Former evangelical Christian political agitator Schaeffer has been born yet again.... Make no mistake, Schaeffer is not proselytizing. He knows, or at least hopes, that with this book he is singing to the choir of millions fed up with or unable to commit to full-blown atheism or stiff-necked religion of any kind. His belief that faith, in God or not, ought to support and enrich one’s life, not run it into the ground, strikes, he hopes, a universally appealing chord." ( Booklist)

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Essential read on the God versus atheism debate

What did you like most about Patience with God?

Frank Schaeffer exposes the flaws of evangelical Christianity, secular atheism and himself in this no holds barred analysis of all three.

What other book might you compare Patience with God to, and why?

As odd as it may seem to those who know their family history much of what I read reminded me of the work of Frank's father Francis Schaeffer.

What about Frank Schaeffer’s performance did you like?

Being the author Frank brought a personal quality and intimacy to the reading.

Did you have an emotional reaction to this book? Did it make you laugh or cry?

I found the book challenging, revealing and at times humorous.

Any additional comments?

Whilst not necessarily agreeing with much of the content I thoroughly enjoyed and highly recommend this book.

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