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Men Who Hate Women

From Incels to Pickup Artists, the Truth About Extreme Misogyny and How It Affects Us All
Narrated by: Laura Bates
Length: 14 hrs and 27 mins
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Includes an exclusive interview between the author and Ben Hurst, head of facilitation and training at The Good Lad Initiative and presenter of the TedxLondonWomen talk 'Boys won’t be boys. Boys will be what we teach them to be'.

An explosive book examining the rise of secretive, extremist communities who despise women. In this ground-breaking investigation, Laura traces the roots of misogyny across a complex spiders web of groups extending from men's rights activists and pick-up artists to Men Going Their Own Way, trolls and the Incel movement, in the name of which some men have committed terrorist acts. 

Drawing parallels with other extremist movements around the world, Bates seeks to understand what attracts men to the movement, how it grooms and radicalises boys, how it operates and what can be done to stop it. 

Most urgently of all, she traces the pathways this extreme ideology has taken from the darkest corners of the internet to emerge covertly in our mainstream media, our playgrounds and our parliament. 

Going undercover on and offline, Laura provides the first, comprehensive look at this hitherto under-the-radar phenomenon, including fascinating interviews with former members of these communities, the academics studying this movement and the men fighting back.

©2020 Laura Bates (P)2020 Audible, Ltd

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Excellent analysis of the Manosphere

I have been vaguely aware of many of the areas covered by this book, incels, mra, pua, gamergate, the alt right for sometime now but the way the writer links all of these online groups with real world actions is truly eye opening.

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A mindblowing uncovery of the dark and twisted web

Out of all the groups mentioned and explored in this brilliant book, the only one I had a passing familiarity with was Incels, although I had no idea at the depth and breadth of how serious and widespread a danger they represented.

This book has left me feeling shaken, scared and seriously worried, but its also woken me up to some serious issues, which we as a society need to tackle. The expression "woke" now makes sense to me.

Following this, I now plan on listening to Laura Bates' other works.

Thank you for this work, Laura. Thank you for opening my eyes.

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Women's rights are not men's wrongs

Feminist writer Laura Bates is best known for her work on the Every Day Sexism Project. In this new book she explores the "manosphere" and considers how ideas that has developed in the dark corners of the internet have seeped into mainstream consciousness. We hear of, at first, seemingly harmless "Incels" (involuntarily celibate) who provide a sense of belonging for an increased proportion of men who at their most extreme and have a deep hatred for women and have links to the alt right. We learn of pick up artists (PUAs) who are deeply misogynistic and men who pay for courses to learn how to increase the notch count on their bedposts.

Some of the depictions of toxic masculinity depicted in this book are deeply disturbing particularly as we hear the way that young people are recruited by the perpetrators by use of social media (YouTube especially) by targeting those who partake in activities such as on line gaming and body building. This is not just in the shadows though; famed author Jordan Petersen is openly misogynistic and claims this is a result of the "me too" movement that has caused men to rebel and even the Leader of the Free World, President Trump has made several potentially harmful statements about the role of women in society. Most hate crime definitions do not include gender and there are examples of attacks perpetrated by the beta male community against women that are not considered to be terrorism.

There is an interview at the end of this audio book with the author who states that she is fearful of the potential backlash this book will create. This is brave writing and Laura Bates' voice deserves to be heard.

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The Bravest Book Ever Written

I hope Panorama picks this up soon because I think that's the only way to make All the Good Men in this world see this problem for what it is. Good men, like every man I know, just can't bear to read this information. It's too upsetting for them. Women manage it because they want to stay safe and KNOW they need to know about it, as much for their beautiful boys as the women in their lives.

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Chilling

Brave, incredible, frightening. A must read for women and men alike, and especially parents.

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the chapter on schools is particularly good.

In 2006 at Denbigh High School in North Wales, there was an art teacher. "Mr S", who was thought to be "cool" because he organised snowboarding trips for the students. As a trainee teacher, I had to be in his classroom, every morning for registration. The room was directly below the female staff toilets and as the children heard the loo getting flushed, "Mr S" would encourage them to speculate about which female teacher was "taking a dump" just to make them laugh. No wonder that a male pupil there asked me if I'd like a "bagette shoved up my arse". The school had a 20% intake of Eastern European adults who were low IQ and in their 20's, but "attending school as if they were teens". The males were continually sexually approaching the terrified female students, who were told not to complain because "it was racist to do that.". In my next school in Chester, the situation was more equal between male and female students. But the last straw was when I went into a classroom where I thought an elderly female supply teacher was getting attacked, and calmed everything down. Elderly female supply teachers are usually a target. But this time, it was a long term teacher who was unknown to me, and she reported me to "Mr C" the Head of the school for "undermining her." Sitting in "Mr C's" office was the most horrific experience of hatred of women, because it came from a person in a senior position. I sat there and watched "Mr C" hurl the most personal abuse at me - despite not knowing me. Half way through his hysteria, I said, "Lets just stop the PGCE shall we?" I missed my chance to be an English teacher, but I knew I could never cope with the hatred of females that was so much a part of the secondary school system. Listening to Laura Bates explain how bad it is now, in 2020, helps me to know that I have done the right thing. I applaud her courage in meeting this problem. Sadly, women are part of the "hate women" too, as I experienced at the school in Saltney.

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Everyone needs to read this book right to the end!

It can be a tough listen at times, but it ends with hope and guidance.

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Not comfortable reading but so very important

This is such a sad and uncomfortable topic but Laura handles it with exceptional care. This is a plea for people to be aware of the malicious predators who are such a danger to women and men alike. Protecting our young men from being groomed into a warped view of reality which will only bring misery to them and the people around them.

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A Book Everyone should read

The book for all that the title states is not a man-bashing book, in fact, its the opposite its a man saving book.

I did write a long review but deleted it, I think it's better you read it with an open mind and don't look up anything about the author until you have read it.

I am off to have conversations and will be listening more carefully to hear what is being said by those that I know.