Listen free for 30 days

£7.99/month after 30 days. Cancel anytime

Summary

Includes an exclusive interview between the author and Ben Hurst, head of facilitation and training at The Good Lad Initiative and presenter of the TedxLondonWomen talk 'Boys won’t be boys. Boys will be what we teach them to be'.

An explosive book examining the rise of secretive, extremist communities who despise women. In this ground-breaking investigation, Laura traces the roots of misogyny across a complex spiders web of groups extending from men's rights activists and pick-up artists to Men Going Their Own Way, trolls and the Incel movement, in the name of which some men have committed terrorist acts. 

Drawing parallels with other extremist movements around the world, Bates seeks to understand what attracts men to the movement, how it grooms and radicalises boys, how it operates and what can be done to stop it. 

Most urgently of all, she traces the pathways this extreme ideology has taken from the darkest corners of the internet to emerge covertly in our mainstream media, our playgrounds and our parliament. 

Going undercover on and offline, Laura provides the first, comprehensive look at this hitherto under-the-radar phenomenon, including fascinating interviews with former members of these communities, the academics studying this movement and the men fighting back.

©2020 Laura Bates (P)2020 Audible, Ltd

What listeners say about Men Who Hate Women

Average customer ratings
Overall
  • 5 out of 5 stars
  • 5 Stars
    239
  • 4 Stars
    24
  • 3 Stars
    5
  • 2 Stars
    2
  • 1 Stars
    0
Performance
  • 5 out of 5 stars
  • 5 Stars
    217
  • 4 Stars
    20
  • 3 Stars
    1
  • 2 Stars
    1
  • 1 Stars
    0
Story
  • 5 out of 5 stars
  • 5 Stars
    211
  • 4 Stars
    19
  • 3 Stars
    5
  • 2 Stars
    1
  • 1 Stars
    0

Reviews - Please select the tabs below to change the source of reviews.

Sort by:
Filter by:
  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

A mindblowing uncovery of the dark and twisted web

Out of all the groups mentioned and explored in this brilliant book, the only one I had a passing familiarity with was Incels, although I had no idea at the depth and breadth of how serious and widespread a danger they represented.

This book has left me feeling shaken, scared and seriously worried, but its also woken me up to some serious issues, which we as a society need to tackle. The expression "woke" now makes sense to me.

Following this, I now plan on listening to Laura Bates' other works.

Thank you for this work, Laura. Thank you for opening my eyes.

22 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

Women's rights are not men's wrongs

Feminist writer Laura Bates is best known for her work on the Every Day Sexism Project. In this new book she explores the "manosphere" and considers how ideas that has developed in the dark corners of the internet have seeped into mainstream consciousness. We hear of, at first, seemingly harmless "Incels" (involuntarily celibate) who provide a sense of belonging for an increased proportion of men who at their most extreme and have a deep hatred for women and have links to the alt right. We learn of pick up artists (PUAs) who are deeply misogynistic and men who pay for courses to learn how to increase the notch count on their bedposts.

Some of the depictions of toxic masculinity depicted in this book are deeply disturbing particularly as we hear the way that young people are recruited by the perpetrators by use of social media (YouTube especially) by targeting those who partake in activities such as on line gaming and body building. This is not just in the shadows though; famed author Jordan Petersen is openly misogynistic and claims this is a result of the "me too" movement that has caused men to rebel and even the Leader of the Free World, President Trump has made several potentially harmful statements about the role of women in society. Most hate crime definitions do not include gender and there are examples of attacks perpetrated by the beta male community against women that are not considered to be terrorism.

There is an interview at the end of this audio book with the author who states that she is fearful of the potential backlash this book will create. This is brave writing and Laura Bates' voice deserves to be heard.

15 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

The Bravest Book Ever Written

I hope Panorama picks this up soon because I think that's the only way to make All the Good Men in this world see this problem for what it is. Good men, like every man I know, just can't bear to read this information. It's too upsetting for them. Women manage it because they want to stay safe and KNOW they need to know about it, as much for their beautiful boys as the women in their lives.

14 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    4 out of 5 stars

Excellent analysis of the Manosphere

I have been vaguely aware of many of the areas covered by this book, incels, mra, pua, gamergate, the alt right for sometime now but the way the writer links all of these online groups with real world actions is truly eye opening.

14 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

You need to read this chaps

Laura Bates' book has been positively reviewed in most of the broadsheets in the past fortnight and I have just finished listening to it.

Her aim in the book is mainly to raise awareness of the misogyny lurking on the internet (but crossing over, violently, into real life). The four groups she discusses are incels, pick up artists, mens rights activists and men going their own way. Posing as a man she infiltrates their forums and communities over a year and what she finds is very disturbing. Misogyny is everywhere; hatred and incitement to violence, rape and murder is the defining feature of incel communities, but only marginally less disturbing in this context are the views and techniques of pick up artists.

After chapters on each, replete with some of the vilest abuse you will ever read, one's hopes that these represent tiny minorities are dashed as she traces how far these views spread (all the way up, of course, to Donald Trump who receives due attention). Most worrying of all is her work in schools and how widespread misogynist views are to be found in teenage boys, and particularly influential in this context are Jordan Peterson (and to a much lesser extent Carl Benjamin). The pivotal role of Gamergate is extensively discussed in this context (especially the abuse that Anita Sarkeesian suffered).

Rapes, murders and mass killings have been carried out by members of these groups (particularly by incels), and the links between these communities and alt-right and far-right groups is extensively explored and detailed. Bates argues, and argues well, that this is a form of domestic terrorism and should be treated as such. The nexus of radicalisation, as she evidences, is YouTube. 25% of all mobile internet use is now YouTube, and 70% of what people watch are YouTube recommendations subsequent to whatever was initially viewed. YouTube's algorithm moves a viewer to more 'extreme' content and anybody looking at feminist issues will quickly be presented with anti-feminist videos to watch (just try it!). Interviews with teenagers reveal that YouTube is their primary source of misogynist views.

The 'Me Too' movement and the issue of false rape or sexual assault allegations is discussed at length. Bates presents statistical evidence to demonstrate the number of such allegations is miniscule compared to the number of rapes that take place. More importantly, however, Bates points out that if this is something that worries a man, then it is his own behaviour and views that he should be examining, rather seeing women in general as a threat or as being prone to making false allegations.

The book concludes with a discussion on what can be done about it and Bates argues that the ball is in our (men's) court; no amount of a woman and/or feminist telling men what to do will have any effect. She argues that toxic masculinity (which she carefully distinguishes from toxic men) has created problematic attitudes that we need to address and that where support is needed it must be provided. It is down to us to call this behaviour out when we see it.

This book is not some intersectional rant from somebody who hates men (though thousands hate her as she is in receipt of a constant barrage of rape and death threats) but a carefully researched, evidenced and extremely well argued book that I encourage all men to read/listen to.

7 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

A Book Everyone should read

The book for all that the title states is not a man-bashing book, in fact, its the opposite its a man saving book.

I did write a long review but deleted it, I think it's better you read it with an open mind and don't look up anything about the author until you have read it.

I am off to have conversations and will be listening more carefully to hear what is being said by those that I know.

7 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

Enlightening

This was a harshly enlightening read for me. Previously I had fallen squarely in the group of people who considered some of the groups discussed in this book as 'a few isolated loners online' but this book was a brilliant and thorough examination of why that isn't the case. It has also absolutely made me determined to be more of an active part of the solution to misogyny rather than simply being passively against it in theory but not in practice. It forced me to examine my own perceptions of various aspects of sexism to an uncomfortable degree but having done so I consider it wholly worth doing.

6 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

Chilling

Brave, incredible, frightening. A must read for women and men alike, and especially parents.

5 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

Outstanding work!

Really important piece of work. This shines a light on this previously unknown (at least to me) part of society. In my opinion, everyone should read this book. It's THAT important.

Thank you for writing this book Laura and sorry for what you went through in the process.

Well done you.

3 people found this helpful

  • Overall
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Performance
    5 out of 5 stars
  • Story
    5 out of 5 stars

Must read.

It is terrifying and infuriating and there were times I had to pause and Google things I had no clue existed. Informative, eye-opening ..I could go on... also respect to Laura Bates , receiving daily rape/death threats because of fighting for equality is not something everyone could handle, she says in the end of the book that she was scared and knew what was coming when she wrote the book but she went for it anyway. I highly recommend this book.

2 people found this helpful