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Gobekli Tepe
- Genesis of the Gods: The Temple of the Watchers and the Discovery of Eden
- Narrated by: Shaun Grindell
- Length: 12 hrs and 33 mins
- Unabridged Audiobook
- Categories: Politics & Social Sciences, Archaeology
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- Michael G.
- 11-06-19
What's with the resting place of the Ark?
Why does the author keep discussing the mythology of Adam and Eve without once saying “this of course is just a myth, there were lots of other humans around at the time, in fact several million over all the major continents”?
Why is the author so obsessed with finding the site of the garden of Eden?
If it is a mythical place then it was never real. If it was real then what was it? The author keeps suggesting that it is a place where there were no food chains, where lions lay down with lambs etc. Really? It is 2019 surely there are no educated people who actually believe that obligate carnivores would live peacefully with their prey? What do the lions eat? The bible is clear that Adam lived to 700 years, surely people don’t actually believe this stuff as literally true? Why are people, in 2019, talking about magic? Magic trees which secrete an oil which stops or reverses aging?
I just cannot understand what the author is saying, why does he keep using the term miraculous?
I laughed when he wrote that some bloke went to Jerusalem and miraculously found a bit of the true cross apparently made of the same wood as the magic tree.
The central idea which he could have put over in an hour, not a dozen, is that there were a group of possible human/Neanderthal hybrids that had some special knowledge and somehow “controlled” an early society to build structures such as Gobekli Tepe. However, the question is why a super-knowledgeable culture would encourage Neolithic peoples to waste their life putting up endless carved stones with animal pictures as some way of preventing another comet strike. Clearly they were not that advanced if they thought carving pictures of foxes and wolves would somehow stop a comet strike. I cannot understand how they could possibly predict comet returns (other than a short period one such as Halley) without using a heliocentric model. There is not a scrap of evidence that humans considered heliocentricity until the last millennium.
I am comfortable that Noah’s flood may well be a myth memory of something such as the flooding of the Black sea basin at the end of the last ice age. Why does the author spoil this interesting speculation by then discussing the resting place of the Ark? The atmosphere never holds more than 5cm of rainfall worldwide. It is puerile, childish, and frankly offensive to rational people to talk about the resting place of the Ark, this would, of course, mean that sea level suddenly rose by over a km in less than a year without any clear and obvious geological trace and causing the extinction of every land and fresh water animal on the Earth. Good luck with getting Kiwis to New Zealand in 9000BCE.
Just so tiresome! Why does the author use BC and AD when everyone is now using BCE and CE?
I was expecting the author to start bible-bashing at any moment but instead he just fizzled out as if he will tell us more amazing secrets in his next book.
If he is going to write another tedious book please could he do everyone a favour and put his cards on the table in the first chapter, I still do not know whether he regards biblical myths as stories based on real scientifically-explainable events or thinks magic and miracles are actually a thing.
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- DWFG
- 05-12-20
Fanciful notions
This is very heavy going. Mediocre narrating coupled with a definite idiosyncratic style of writing do not make for a relaxing read. add in the fact there is actually little about gobekli tepe (though I will admit to some interesting details about prehistoric culture, and some interesting reflection on mythology - then conflated, again meaning the power of what is being suggested is lost) and a *lot* of speculation. all together what could have been riveting became a fight with myself to make it to the very anti-climactic ending.
then, to top it all off the author talks about the "fanciful notion" of ancient astronaut theory (p278 on the kindle mobile app). considering 37 appearances on the long-running series ancient aliens (from 2014 when this book was written, to 2020 - however in total he has 52 episodes under his belt!) this sounds just a little like hypocrisy. you can't have it both ways Andrew.
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- Tom
- 17-06-20
Groundbreaking but mispronounced
This is a groundbreaking book detailing the Earth changing discovery of the oldest known temple on the planet. A true work of art and Andrew Collins should be hugely commended for it.
But why on Earth is it narrated by a man that mispronounces the direct topic of the book?! It's Göbekli Tepe (tep-ay) not teper!
12 hours of constant mispronounciation, if you can get past that, this a must read.
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- Mr Sharrocks
- 03-10-18
Fantastic listen.
Mind blowing views on humanities evolution through history and religion. Well written and worthy of your time to listen.
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- j c
- 29-06-22
Very smart and insightful
The author very cleverly and carefully puts together a story of ancient ancestry and the roots religious beliefs based around the ancient monuments at Gobeklie Tempe. The author has found an objective narrative about where everything began and a possible solution to why and how ancient religious belief / control / guilt sits within us all. I advise anyone with an interest in the ancient world, philosophy and belief to read this book. There is a lot a factual geography towards the latter part of the story but persist, it’s thoroughly worth the trip.
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- Richard Bundy
- 01-05-22
An interesting story
The first half of the book was interesting because it was fact based. The author then went on an imaginary didactic preach about an elite tribe from Europe influencing the construction as if it were a singular phenomenon.
Stone structures exist near the location of Gobekli Tepe that predate the site, showing a progression of construction over along period of time.
We remain curious about the origin and mystery of the ancient world, but by placing speculation in a book doesn’t make it fact.
There are as many truths to the past as there are people who write them.
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- MR JASON HAMMOND
- 08-04-22
To much thought
This book compares Gobekli Tepe to older known sites within the area, trying and treating it as a singular site. If a more widespread view of the landscape was looked at, this building although groundbreaking is only one of many, some of which are much older. This is just humans learning new ways and beliefs nothing unknown. I believe there is evidence showing the movement of DNA across this landscape, with this movement, new ways of doing, seeing and thinking are developed also.
More joined up up thinking needed and less joined up beliefs and practices would have made this far better.
The believers of these tales come across as the same a Carlos Castaneda Followers although the author and his friends seem a little more "Indiana Jones" like in their quests.
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- Paul Gordon
- 01-02-21
Mind Food
This fascinating book, had me hooked., i was absorbed from the start and my mind feels like its been wrestling with some mad MMA grappler
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- Rob
- 24-08-19
Way to names
Fascinating subject but struggling to finish it. Very difficult to keep track of all the names.
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- jonathan
- 22-08-19
About to do my third listen to this. Fantastic!
This is great, just finished my second listen and about to go for a third. really brilliant work!
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- Laurie S.
- 19-08-18
Thin gruel
LOADS of speculation
Intercalated with fascinating factual tid bits
Not really worth the slog
Meh
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- Lydia
- 18-03-19
I couldn't even get to chapter 3
I really like hearing the author speak on gaia's ancient civilizations, open minds ect. I'm sure I'll love his book but this is the second book I returned and they both have the same narrator. I gave it a shot not knowing it was his voice. I was driving and before I knew it I had a terrible headache. I have never had such a reaction to a person's voice and he doesn't even speak clearly!
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- Sam Sapirstein
- 28-09-18
Scam!
I should have read through the entire description. Only at the end of the long blurb does it reveal itself to be a total pile of new age bullshit. Not worth your time. This is a pity. Gobekli Tepe is a fascinating archaeological find with profound implications for the way we understand the rise of complex societies after the ice age. That the only book dedicated to it is a new age fraud frustrates me greatly.
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- lmtwashington
- 04-08-18
Nothing To Do With Gobekli Tepe
This is a ridiculous series of baseless sensational attempts at opinions packaged as fact about....not Gobekli Tepe.... but Eden and it's now uncovered location in Eastern Turkey. Right. I enjoy Collins and tha Ancient Aliens campy versions of history. It's fun sometimes especially when the stories are almost believable. This read is neither fun nor remotely believable. It's a worse than usual slam Christ, Christianity and one God. The true cross came from Eden...Golgotha conceals the skull of Adam...there remains today a lost to time but functioning and attended monastery that has been there since and was part of Eden.
Narration? Hyper intonation and inflection.
Have nothing to do with this non Gobekli Tepe ruse.
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- Graham Findlay
- 17-11-19
Could have been much better
Lots of speculation. Few facts. Struggled with this even though thre subject was interesting. Too much focus on religious myth like the Garden of Eden, and not one word about how pre-pottery people accomplished the building of the rock structures. why?
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- Nicole Miller
- 23-02-18
Guaranteed to fill your head... completely!
What a huge amount of information given in this tome. Hang in there for the conclusion. It comes together brilliantly in the second half. I feel better grounded in history on many levels after listening.
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- Alexander Flynn
- 08-08-21
Not scientific enough
Too much speculation, not enough science. I would return it if I could. Not at all what I look for.
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- Anjanette M. Ruscetta
- 07-05-18
very difficult book to follow
Very informative and factual, how ever I felt it went to deep into many other things that were on the fringe of not being involved.
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- curt m mayer
- 11-03-22
Dreck.
evidence-free speculation. might as well be channeling from planet z.
this is an outrageously self indulgent wank by the author.
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- Aaron S
- 27-12-21
Ugh it's a book about Eden
I tried so hard to like this book and gave it so many chances. But 7 hours in I have to admit I'm totally wasting my time. I'm learning nothing about gobekli tepe a real place, and being forced to listen to soooo much speculation and Christian ridiculousness.