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Phire in the Hole

Phire in the Hole

By: Phase Five Media LLC
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Phire in the Hole is a no-holds-barred weekly podcast hosted by Phire Jones, an industry insider with over two decades of experience in music and acting. From New York’s music scene to California’s acting circuit, Phire brings a raw, unfiltered perspective on the industry and the people in it. Each episode dives into the realities most don’t talk about—wins, failures, politics, and behind-the-scenes culture—featuring guests from across the entertainment world. Recorded every Sunday and released every Tuesday, it’s real talk for creatives, performers, and anyone curious about life behind the spotlight.

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Episodes
  • Bringing that Smoke
    Jun 14 2026

    In this episode of Phire in the Hole, host Phire Jones sits down with Bay Area artist, entrepreneur, and creator Mr. Loco (Loc Da Smoke) for an in-depth conversation about music, creativity, and building a lasting legacy.

    Mr. Loco reflects on his early influences in hip-hop, his journey as an independent artist, and how songwriting became both a creative outlet and a form of personal therapy. He discusses collaborations with respected figures in the industry, the challenges and rewards of navigating the music business independently, and the importance of staying authentic in an ever-changing landscape.

    The conversation explores several of Mr. Loco's innovative projects, including the Rap Matrix, a unique fusion of music and comic book storytelling, and the Bay Grid, a digital representation of Bay Area culture and music. He also shares insights into his label, Pipeline Coalition, and his ongoing efforts to honor the contributions of legendary artists while creating opportunities for the next generation.

    Mr. Loco opens up about rebuilding his career after parting ways with Wise Guys Global, the power of collaboration, and the lessons he's learned through personal and professional challenges. He and Phire also discuss the growing influence of artificial intelligence in music, weighing its potential as a creative tool against the need for originality and human expression in an increasingly crowded market.

    The episode concludes with a look at Mr. Loco's future projects, including his R&B album Evolution of the Smoke, his thoughts on perseverance and longevity in the industry, and the legacy he hopes to leave for artists and fans alike.

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    57 mins
  • Isreal Picaso on the MIc
    Jun 14 2026

    In this week’s episode of Phire in the Hole, Phire Jones sits down with Yaki Kadafi fora raw conversation about hip-hop culture, independent grind, podcasting, and the journey from local stages to interviewing some of the biggest names in the industry.

    Born and raised in Pagedale, St. Louis, Missouri, Israel “Yaki Kadafi” Pacoso discovered his love for hip-hop at an early age after his father brought him into a recording studio at just 12 years old. Quickly developing his craft, many around him compared his style and presence to Jay-Z — one of several artists who inspired him alongside 2Pac and Nelly.

    During the COVID era, Yaki launched the podcast When I Fell in Love with Hip Hop, a platform that rapidly gained traction and eventually caught the attention of BET Networks. Through both music and media, he has built a strong presence in the hip-hop community, performing throughout St. Louis and interviewing legendary artists and industry figures including Yukmouth, Chingy, St. Lunatics, MC Shan, Khujo, Young Bleed, and Benzino, among many others.

    Yaki Kadafi continues to build his presence through music, media, and culture-driven conversations, representing St. Louis hip-hop while connecting with artists and audiences around the world.

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    1 hr
  • Tommy Bishop Arrives
    Jun 14 2026

    In this inaugural episode of Phire in the Hole After Dark, host Phire Jones welcomes his brother Tommy Bishop for an unfiltered conversation about their lives, experiences in the music industry, and personal stories. They delve into Tommy's journey from Philadelphia to working with notable artists, the challenges faced in the music scene, and the importance of health and well-being in the industry.

    The episode is filled with anecdotes, laughter, and insights into the world of hip hop and personal connections. In this engaging conversation, Tommy Bishop and Phire Jones delve into the intricacies of sound engineering, the evolution of their music careers, and the impact of personal experiences on their artistic journeys. They reflect on the challenges faced in the music industry, the transition to wrestling, and the changing landscape of hip-hop. The discussion highlights the importance of authenticity, personal connections, and the lessons learned throughout their careers, culminating in a shared appreciation for their craft and the experiences that shaped them.

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    58 mins
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