M2 Ep 009 - Outcome Thinking
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About this listen
You manage managers. That means more than half your business lives or dies on the quality of frontline supervision.
And yet teams still spend enormous energy solving problems without ever confirming the outcome they’re solving for.
In this episode of M2: Managing Managers, Jim and Thomas tackle one of the most common and expensive leadership blind spots: losing the “why” while obsessing over the “how.” Strong executors rise into leadership because they get things done. But that same wiring can pull teams deep into tactics, details, and forward motion—without shared clarity about what must be true at the end.
What you’ll get:
How to recognize when your team is optimizing activity instead of outcomes
The friction signal: Why hidden misalignment shows up as subtle conflict and rework
The Outcome Question: “What do we want to be true?” and why it changes everything
Visceral clarity vs. intellectual clarity — and why metrics alone aren’t enough
A simple way to surface alignment in any meeting without creating status tension
If you want faster decisions, less rework, and teams that move in the same direction instead of talking past each other, this episode gives you a practical clarity tool you can use immediately.