If you’ve ever felt stuck between knowing what could help you live well with MS and actually making it stick, this conversation is for you.

In this episode of Living Well with MS, Overcoming MS Program Facilitator Laura Crowder explores the ‘change your life for life’ pillar, the inner work that helps make lifestyle changes feel sustainable rather than overwhelming. Laura is joined by Overcoming MS Program Facilitator Hayley Baker, who shares her personal experience of building confidence, resilience and self-compassion while following the Overcoming MS Program.

Together, they reflect on why mindset matters, how hope and empowerment can support wellbeing, and what to do when life inevitably knocks you off track.

This episode is a webinar highlights special – originally recorded as a live Overcoming MS webinar and now edited for the podcast to bring you the key insights, questions and takeaways in one place.

Watch the full webinar on YouTube. Keep reading for the topics, timestamps, and our guest’s bio.

00:58 Exploring the pillar: Change your life for life

04:36 Choice, autonomy and taking control after diagnosis

09:56 The role of hope in living well with MS

12:37 Awareness, acceptance and managing difficult days

16:02 The power of language in habit formation

21:13 Empowerment and making lifestyle change sustainable

22:45 Community support and shared experience

25:36 Hayley’s personal journey with MS

35:01 Advice for people new to the Program

37:50 Q&A: common challenges, motivation and self-compassion

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